rod for talica 12 ii

DEGBTI

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I know its been asked, I did a search. But I just got a talica 12 two speed. I put it on a new Okuma PCH 760 30/60
I caught a few yt on it and its amazing butter smooth. My question is the reel seems kind of big/heavy for the rod even though the rod is sweet. Is there a go to rod for this reel? Doesn't matter brand. Using for live bait and flat falls, 65 lb j braid

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jeremiah 9:23,24
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not familiar with your rod maybe more suitable for talica 10-2. but I have 3 of the talica 12-2 & they are lil beasts super versatile & probably not a perfect match for your particular rod.

I use them on a ulua jig stick, phenix hyrbid phd 700x3h 80lb, & phenix hybrid 929x2h popper rig. I consider it a 50lb and up reel which ever rod maker you prefer.
 

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I know its been asked, I did a search. But I just got a talica 12 two speed. I put it on a new Okuma PCH 760 30/60
I caught a few yt on it and its amazing butter smooth. My question is the reel seems kind of big/heavy for the rod even though the rod is sweet. Is there a go to rod for this reel? Doesn't matter brand. Using for live bait and flat falls, 65 lb j braid

thanks
I know what you mean, It's because the newer graphite composite blanks and components make the rods so light, they feel under powered. I think The Okuma PCH76XH (30-60) is an ideal rod for Tac12. Line ratings are accurate, it's a solid 50# rod, IMHO.
I have the Okuma PCH 70M (12-25) with a Tac10 for my go to 20-25# live bait set up, plenty of backbone for 25#.
 

Old Jack

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Put mine on my UC 80 monster. It's was love at first sight
 

jer dog

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Put mine on my UC 80 monster. It's was love at first sight
I picked up the Cal star, 700h, and the 7400
and their both 30 to 80 LB, rods
so I'm going to try it on both of them
and see witch one I like it on the most .
 
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Ray Howell

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I have mine in a calstar graphfighter 765l 65 lb. braid with either 50 or 60lb. top shot love this combo.
 
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MaxDrag760

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I have my Tac 12-2 speed on a Terez 7ft H, it's a beast, I can cast a sardine with no problem, lots of back bone, I use mine for 30-60lb
 

jeff savage

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I've fished it on a calstar 700h and like it. However, I fished it on a calstar 875h 30-60 last year with 40# and really really enjoyed the match. It's a very versatile reel that will work great on many rod choices.
 
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Tried my tac12ii on a few different rods. It's on a Phenix BD PSW 76xh now. Really fun set up and the 76xh is a beast of a rod. Bait and jigs both feel good on the rod. No BFT on that combo yet tho.
 
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Jim Schmitt

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Mine is paired with Phenix Axis 720 H (25-60) with 65# spectra and #40 top shot. Perfect 40 lb set up. Perfectly balanced. Good for bait or jigs. Love my Tac 12ii. Consider paring also with UC US 76 HP (30-50) or UC US 76 Predator (50-80)
 

hookedup711

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I know its been asked, I did a search. But I just got a talica 12 two speed. I put it on a new Okuma PCH 760 30/60
I caught a few yt on it and its amazing butter smooth. My question is the reel seems kind of big/heavy for the rod even though the rod is sweet. Is there a go to rod for this reel? Doesn't matter brand. Using for live bait and flat falls, 65 lb j braid

thanks
Broke my PCH on its first use.. no real load on it when it snapped either (3-4lbs). Just a funny angle (not horrible) .. Guess i got a bad blank.. shame it seemed like a nice rod. Oh and it was the 700XH with a Saltiga 30T kinda off topic but just thought I’d throw that out there
 

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I prefer Phenix, and with 65# braid I'd stick with an XH Hybrid or Axis, your choice of length. I fish 65# braid with a Tac 10 for 40-50 on a 700XH Hybrid and it's awesome. I fish straight braid and prefer 80# braid on the 12 for 60 to light 80# use on an X2H.
 

hookedup711

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I prefer Phenix, and with 65# braid I'd stick with an XH Hybrid or Axis, your choice of length. I fish 65# braid with a Tac 10 for 40-50 on a 700XH Hybrid and it's awesome. I fish straight braid and prefer 80# braid on the 12 for 60 to light 80# use on an X2H.
I just ordered a phenix PHD 700H 20-60 hope that it’s heavy enough fishing 65 with 18-20lbs of drag (bottom fishing) I have a calstar 700H 30-80 it’s almost too heavy (for what i use it for) wish shops here in south FL carried more Phenix-Rods then I’d have a better idea of what i was dealing with. Waiting on delivery tomorrow we will see
 
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Caseman

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I have fished my talica 16 on my custom black diamond 700h and it's an awesome setup for me with 85lb fins 40g and 40-60 flouro. I've fished 15 lbs on it and it did fine. Had a nice bend on a 50lb grouper I landed. Should be nice setup.
 

MikeL

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My Talica 12ii is on a Calstar 700h. Its a great reel and I use if for fishing bait on 40-50 line.
 

hucklongfin

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I just ordered a phenix PHD 700H 20-60 hope that it’s heavy enough fishing 65 with 18-20lbs of drag (bottom fishing) I have a calstar 700H 30-80 it’s almost too heavy (for what i use it for) wish shops here in south FL carried more Phenix-Rods then I’d have a better idea of what i was dealing with. Waiting on delivery tomorrow we will see
18-20# of drag? That rod's way to light. I'd go with a phd700x2h for that drag. A Talica 20II fishing a 40-50# leader would be good on a phd760xh or UC Tilefish 80.
 

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18-20# of drag? That rod's way to light. I'd go with a phd700x2h for that drag. A Talica 20II fishing a 40-50# leader would be good on a phd760xh or UC Tilefish 80.
I'm not familiar with Florida bottom fishing, but if you intend to actually bend that rod with a fish that can take line with 18-20# of drag it's going to snap. Just because the line rating says 20-60 doesn't mean you can use 60# line and fish the rod with whatever drag setting and be fine. I was told by Phenix that to get the max drag setting/sweet spot for a rod add the lower limit and upper limit and divide that by 8. If you're mathematically inclined you'll notice that that's 1/4 of the average line rating for the rod in question, and it's generally pretty accurate. Additionally, Phenix's ratings are more liberal than Calstars, and you want to stay on the lower end of the range.

But like I said, I don't know the application. We fish calico on 15-40s with 40# fluoro and drags locked to 20#+, but that's for stopping power on fish that cannot pull hard enough to break 40#/those rods. You might be able to get away with it by pointing the rod tip at the fish if they really pull and try to take line but that's just inefficient. So if say, a Goliath bites on that rod, I imagine you're going to be hosed, and really wish you had an X2H like Mark suggested.
 
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18-20# of drag? That rod's way to light. I'd go with a phd700x2h for that drag. A Talica 20II fishing a 40-50# leader would be good on a phd760xh or UC Tilefish 80.
Wow upper limit (60) lower limit (20) divided by 8 is only 10lbs of drag. So it’s basically a 30lb rod!! It does seem a bit light.. I Fish 50-60lb leaders, and push the drags up to 20lbs at times for stopping power.... perhaps the phenix are rated a bit different.. I’ve used a calstar 700mh 30-60 and it was perfect. We will see i haven’t put the balls to it yet. Maybe someone will trade a XH or a 2XH
 
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hucklongfin

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I use my psw760h for 30-40#. It fishes nice with 10# of drag. I use 30# on longer trips but I got a 85# BFT on it with 30# and a 60#er on 40#. I’ve caught lots of YT and YFT on it and some Wahoo too. I wouldn’t fish it with 50/60#. I haven’t tried the Hybrid versions which are stiffer.
 
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Wow upper limit (60) lower limit (20) divided by 8 is only 10lbs of drag. So it’s basically a 30lb rod!! It does seem a bit light.. I Fish 50-60lb leaders, and push the drags up to 20lbs at times for stopping power.... perhaps the phenix are rated a bit different.. I’ve used a calstar 700mh 30-60 and it was perfect. We will see i haven’t put the balls to it yet. Maybe someone will trade a XH or a 2XH
Well yea, think about it logically, the rod isn't rated for only 60#, it's rated for 20-60#. How could one rod possibly fish 60# on the high end of the drag range and still remotely make sense to use for 20#? The rod has a singular sweet spot, you can fish higher on the rating range if you want to fish with light drag or stay lower in the range if you like to fish with heavy drag relative to the line test. You want to fish heavy for the line test so it should be pretty obvious you don't want the softest rod that has 60# in the rating range. Ask the long rangers if they'd fish 100# with 30# of drag on their 40-100# sticks.

I fish the 20-50 PSW869H with about 8#s of drag, and it's pretty great for 30#/light jig, but fishing 10#s for 40# line doesn't instill confidence. The shorter rods are a bit stouter for the same H rating, and their 20-60 line rating reflects that, so 10#s of drag sounds about right. In general I find Calstars can absolutely fish one line class higher than the Black Diamonds and potentially pushed one class above that, while the Hybrids can just be pushed one line class higher than the PSWs, but not always comfortably if you like to fish heavy. For below XH ratings I prefer the PSWs because I feel they absorb runs better being softer and I have more confidence the fish isn't going to come unpinned bc I tend to get really paranoid that it's going to happen.
 
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