Rod and reel for 200lb+ bluefin?

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  1. jplee3

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    Hey all,

    I recently picked up a Phenix PSW 700xh and Penn Fathom 60LD2 combo. If I were to hookup on a 200lb+ bluefin, would I be outgunned? I recently saw a video of a guy on a private boat with a Talica 50 and not sure what rod on a 200+ BFT and it took over an hour for them to bring in. That reel is *huge* haha.

    Anyway, if I actually ever get to going out, I want to make sure I have a sufficient setup that can handle mostly anything thrown at it, from 60-80lb grade to the 250lb 'incidental'

    Thoughts?
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I don't think its impossible, but a lot of things have to go your way. Neither your rod or reel are ideal, but the rod is actually your weakest point, it wont have the lift capable of moving one of these fish if they don't want to move.
     
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    Rod is does not have enough lifting power. Reel is on questionable side for 200lns plus- it has line capacity for 80 lbs braid. Basically a wide 40N- which landed yellowfin tuna 180lbs and below. 200lbs Bluefin is different class. minimum a 16 size reel like Makaira/Penn and rail rod. Caught 190lbs and 215lbs bluefin on this setup. MAk 16 / UC centaur. next best option is 20 size reel with matched rail rod. top option 50 size reel which you saw in the video with matched rail rod
     
  4. jplee3

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    Thanks for the feedback! How would an Avet HX do in this case? I've heard great things about Makairas as well - I might consider one down the road...

    What other rods would be recommended for this? Like a 700xxh?
     
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    My setups are mak20 and penn visx 16. Both are on the Okuma SCT rail rods XXXXH. Although I have pulled on the Okuma PCH rail rods and they are great too.
     
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    If you hook a cow on that set up, you will get your ass handed to you... Just sayin'
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Unless you are buying used (absolutely nothing wrong with that) the best cheapest realistic setup you can buy would be something like the following:

    PCH-C741XXXH - 7'4" 80-130 lbs $300
    Okuma Makaira, Penn VISX 20 or 30 - $500-600 ( could replace with an Avet EXW 30/2 for a little less if you like)
    Line - 100lb spectra- short 130lb topshot (if you want) - $100
    Rigged flatfall with leader and better hooks - $30-$40

    Its about a grand to do it right...
     
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    I put together a setup for $620. Seeker rail boss RR100 with an Avet 50/2 loaded with 100 solid to 130 hollow. If you’re patient you can find deals. Killed my first cow over the weekend with it via flat fall. Didn’t feel outgunned whatsoever
     
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    I saw a couple of 200+ BFT landed on a Torium and a 11' jigstick on a big sportie.

    Sure, it's not ideal, but it can be done.
     
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    Nimble private boat yes, sportbarge fishing no.
     
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    Thanks guys - so you think the EXW 30 would be more than enough? Sounds like the rod I'd want would be something that's rated *starting* at 80lbs (so 80-130lb more or less and then whatever length is preferred - I'm assuming length isn't *as* big a deal but longer the better if the fish are far off the boat?)
     
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    First off "anything" is possible, but its usually best to maximize your chances, and not depend on all the luck going your way. The Percentages are already against you on these big fish no matter what you use.
    A key consideration is the frame of your reel. For fish under 200 pounds, "medium frame" reels like your Fathom FTH60LD2, or HXW will work fine. Once you get into "cow grade", things change.
    Reels that are "heavy frame", like PENN Internationals, MAK, EX series, etc are more expensive, heavier [of course], and a much better choice for the really big fish.
    If you are OK with going up to a 50-size reel [60-plus ounces], its hard to argue that you will be undergunned. No surprise that my favorite would be a PENN International 50VISX [63 ounces], filled with 130 braid.
    That's a lot of weight to fish all night long, so for the 200-250 pound class fish, a 16VISX filled with 100 pound braid is a lot easier to hold for long periods. However, the fish keep getting bigger, with enough 300 pounders out there that they are not an accident. For those, a minimum of a 20VISX would be a better choice.
    Here is a 287 that was landed on a 20VISX.



    287 on 20VISX.JPG
     
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    I fish a calstar 775xxh with a makaira 20. Loaded with 700-800 yards of 100lb spectra.
     
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    I liked the Makairas a lot. I would go with size 20 and up. I’ve caught a super and a few cows with the Mak50/Invictus, Mak50/2x4 and none takes more than 15 minutes. You can really put the wood to those biggie with the right size gears.
     
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    u pay all the money to go on a trip to catch cow and u bring a .22 to a gun fight
    doesn't makes sense ...the rod is meant to fish 50-60
    its a 30-80 rod i believe nothing isn't possible my guess would be
    u will have a 2 pc rod soon ....9 outta 10 ur gonna lose the fish
    doesn't make sense at all
     
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    I would go with a 30 size reel at minimum. These fish are demons and getting bigger everyday. Had no problem with my 6’6” rod maneuvering and keeping line away from Hull. Everyone’s mileage will vary and it depends on your fighting style.
     
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    For that size bluefin I use a 775XXH w/ VISX 20 fill with 100# hollow spliced to about 150 yards of 130# hollow. That would be the minimum size I use. You can use a size 16 but why? Cost difference is minimal between the 2.
     
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    U.C. Viper/ Mak 20 !
     
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    If you were to hook a 200+lb bluefin on that set up you should hand the rod to someone you don’t like. It won’t end well

    Like you’ve already heard 16 or 20 size reels on a rod with a lot more backbone. They pop up in he classified section here all of the time especially after the season. All the guys that rushed out and bought them chasing the dream then start looking at the credit card bill for it
     
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    As already said, the psw700xh is a 40-50# rod. It’d be a total noodle on a big BFT. I mostly use 40# with a Fathom 25nld2 on mine. For big BFT I’d want my Mak 20/Viper 76, it’ll easily handle a 200# BFT.
     

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