Ringed hooks vs non-ringed.

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  1. Normslanding

    Normslanding I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I'm curious, all of you fishing trips of 7 or more days what percentage of your hooks are ringed. My usage is about 90%.
     
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    All of my hooks are ringed except for the 10/0 j-hooks I use with man baits.
     
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    Ringed
     
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    100%
     
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    FishRock I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Any time I am fishing live bait for fish over 30 lbs. I go with a ringed hook.

    I always imagine the knot is experiencing a lot more movement under heavy pressure without a ring but assume that the ring and hook take all the abuse with a ringed hook.

    But I don't seem to be seeing reports of knot failures due to wear with non-ringed hooks. So maybe it does not matter.
     
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    I like ringed for live bait so I'm probably at 90%. I use cheap non-ringed hooks when Dorado are in the mix!
     
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    Many years ago (15) about 75%.... once I started using a uni knot with a loop I hardly use any ringed hooks, mostly use ringed hooks on my double trouble kite baits or big baits.....less weight and no failures with no rings....
     
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    I look at hook wire size in relationship to the bait. You can have equal size baits with different stamina. If the bait is weak, no ring, if the are strong, I will use a ring. The water temperature, time in the bait tank, rough sea all contribute to bait stamina. I may start out using ring hooks early in a trip but switch to a non-ringed hook later in a trip for the same size bait.
     
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    I like ringed Gorillas...
     
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    I’m with Fishy on this one. To me, it makes sense if we are trying to be stealthy, a knot ( be it a uni or SanDiego jam not fully snugged or one of the good loop knots) makes more sense.

    My reason for the change was an observation I made on a trip. I had baited a little too early and dropped my bait back into a handwell with a ringed hook attached. While my bait swam around, I could feel the “click” of the ring with every one of his tailbeats. This led me to believe that the fish could maybe hear it too. I’ve fished long enough to see ringed hooks get bit well, but I am always looking for any edge.
     
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    Is the reason we use ringed hooks to avoid knot failure or to get hooked up more, with better bait motion using the rings?

    I use all ringed hooks for bait, except kite rigs with 200#, which are crimped, and chunks, which don't swim.
     
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    I think there are two primary reasons to use ringed hooks.

    1. Allow bait to swim more freely.
    2. Provide some added wear protection during the battle.

    Debatable whether or not either is true compared to simply using a loosely cinched loop knot.
     
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    A few reasons and theorys imo

    1. Achieve a more direct pull on the hooked fish. Hurt fish more

    2. Higher bait performance

    3. Easier to tie a clean knot as there are more angles and degrees and pressure points to use while cinching

    4. More confidence for the believers

    The click clack sound is a fish attractor :D

    30lb line and under for schoolie grade fish/kelp paddys. The cheap bronze off set mustad no ring. Is my go to hook. They come in big packs
     
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    100% ringed bait hooks past 20 yrs on trips up to 10 days, Never had a ring break on bait fish including numerous 100# yft and bft (my own silversoldered rings btw!!)
     
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    A ringed hook is not necessary for big baits, but for sardines or anchovies it brings the line straight behind the bait. If the line sticks out it causes the bait to turn in that direction and does not allow free movement. I can say the ring concept can be done with a loop knot. And while all true loop knots are weak a Uni is not a true loop knot. We used to fish heavy line with a Perfection loop at the hook, a 50% knot and that really helped in getting bit, before the ringed hook.
     
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    While I have seen first-hand at least a few knot failures when the line creeped into the eyelet bend gap, this issue has been eliminated by “closed-eye” hooks. Seems like there’s plenty of evidence that direct-tie and open loop methods work just fine, too.
    Still, it’s pretty cool to see a hook that you’ve personally ringed hanging out of the mouth of a 100+ pounder!
     
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    100 % all Ringed
     
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    Soda Pop I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Ringed hooks.. 100 % except for fishing skip jack... 10/0 11/0 I don't have rings
     
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    I think of the ring as a pivot point. Instead of the hook pivoting and wearing a hole in the fishes jaw the ring and hook eye take the abuse. 100% rings
     
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