Rigging Flat Fall lures for Big Tuna

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  1. Guyster

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    300642CF-AE87-41A6-A739-F4906AC5EDED.jpeg Well I have probably rigged over 500 custom flat fall type lures so far this year and I always get asked “How do I rig my own lures”? I have access to all the hooks and swivel combinations in my inventory and this works for me. All the swivels are Heavy Duty Offshore swivels and the hooks are Owner offshore and a Jobu.
    The most important thing to remember in customizing lures is “Do not impede the action of the lure that it was designed to do” the best way to prevent that is the addition of swivels with any new hooks you may put on. Now if you are just swapping a treble w/ a better treble etc, no problem. But if you start adding a whole new series of hooks, it is something to consider.
    The reason for the offshore swivels instead of the ball bearing, is I am more concerned with strength than a anti-twist function. I also have some custom hook combinations that I will be using for getting the greatest performance out of your bait while using heavier line for big fish that I will probably post later.
    Hope this helps.
    Guyster
     
  2. pete j

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    Are 3 hooks like that legal in california? or are just showing how you put the hooks on and what size they should be?
     
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    Hismosa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Yes it's legal, he could put however many he wants. Unless he's using it to rockfish.
     
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    nefarious235 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Since they are all attached to a single lure, as many hooks as he wants.
     
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    I'm wouldn't be too quick to drop that over the side with those unwelded rings :eek:

    The unknown fisherman:p:
     
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    Don’t try this at home, it’s for illustration purposes only!
     
  7. ?? fisherman

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    Sorta figured that, but then again since he's rigged over 500 just this year alone, you would think this one (the one he's giving an example of) would have been dialed in to perfection. ;)

    The unknown fisherman:p:
     
  8. Guyster

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    When we customize lures for a client we always mock it up and send them a pic for approval before any permanent connections are made, many times we are given a very strict guideline for making a custom rig. I already slightly altered this setup.
    Usually I set it up and let Brandon (my son) take a look at it before we finalize it.
    We have found that the customizing we do is very very important to the angler, many of the setups we do is to catch a $10,000 fish and recreational anglers are after that trophy fish.
    So, that is why the lure was not finalized yet.
     
  9. PE Pete

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    Reckon you might need one more hook in that jig....
     
  10. Guyster

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    C0BFF25F-68DA-45F7-BCB6-7C7D0325BE18.jpeg Some clients want more, I customized 20 of these for a client that was targeting bluefin over #300+
     
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    Haha that's gold mate. Lol
    Nothing's gonna spit that jig. Nice work bro.
     
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    The main question is: Does adding all those additional hooks really make a difference ? If that big jobu is in the fishes mouth, why 4 more hooks ?

    For those of you who wave spent time dropping them .. what are your thoughts ?

    Jeff
     
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    When does that jig end up just sinking like a rock?
     
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    A deckhand recently told me they see far more fish lost with the large stinger hook. He didn't elaborate but it may be it gives the fish leverage against the jig when it shakes its head. I am sticking with a couple of high quality assist hooks for now. Seems with this set-up the fish can twist and turn all the way to the gaff.

    Tight lines
     
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    PM me a quote for one like this please?
     
  16. ReelDealAngler-

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    Just wondering if anyone has ever seen the thin rings that these "Flat Fall" jigs come with break... I've used them (own a dozen or so in several sizes) but have never taken a cow size BFT on them. I ALWAYS put a heavier welded ring on all my jigs, plugs, poppers etc. To me the second example shown by Guy is going to be much stronger as the hooks attached to swivels on top are attached to the added heavier welded main ring so if the thinner ring that comes with the lure breaks you are still in the fight. Not sure if the Flat Fall jigs are thru wired or not, but if your hooks are on the bottom ring (opposite of where you tie on) your putting a lot of pressure on that thin standard ring which IMO is truly a WEAK SPOT when fishing for 200-300lb+ BFT in deeper water where they tend to pull harder using current and their girth in sideways motions to their full advantage.

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    The other factor to be considered here is if that larger grade BFT eats these Flat Fall lures with multiple super sharp designer hooks that really stick well you end up getting what I call the "locked jaw" factor which greatly aids the angler as the fish has a much harder time breathing with a slightly closed (locked) jaw… less water running over its gills so it ends up dealing with some degree of suffocation that can have very damaging effects to its ability to swim and fight back.

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    I don't fish for tuna but I personally think that's likely to effect the falling action.
    We do use similar jigs but usually only run a twin hook assist off the top.
    We also release the majority of YTK so different again if you're likely to keep your tuna catch.
    But like I said I'm not a tuna fisherman.
     
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    afraser I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    So I buy most of my ringed hooks form guy, including the 13/0 super mutus that I use to bridle the flatfalls. If you want to catch more big bft, don't use j hooks, use a large circle ahead of the lure. On the drop or jigging it is 2x more effective at landing fish hat bite the lure. Note if it is a bad weather day, consider using a mono top shot to absorb the shock and maintain pressure on the hook. That goes for any type of hooks.
     
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    Just had a couple of these rigged up at fisherman’s access.

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