Repowering Soon - Advice Wanted

oceanski

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My 1988 motor has been nothing but problems since April and I'm ready to give up on it and repower. I have it narrowed down to either a Yamaha or Suzuki 175 or 200 4 stroke. I've been pricing out new motors from multiple dealers and stumbled across this site in my search. Does anyone have experience with this site? The motors are extremely cheap.

http://www.yamaha-outboardsale.com/...-stroke-inline-outboard-motor-sale-p-301.html

Also just wondering if anyone has recommendations for local dealers if this site isn't legit.

Thanks in advance for the replies.
 
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fly liner

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I don't know of this site but most of the time if its too good to be true, then it is.. Do a Google search of the site. And you'll find info
 
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kindafishy

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i wouldn't send money to a overseas company that is apparently owned by........JOE KING (JOKING)
UNLESS YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM SOMEONE YOU TRUST BEWARE.
 
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nefarious235

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Go to a reputable local dealer and buy a YAMAHA.
 
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steelhead88

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My vote is to go with a local dealer (in case of issues, warranty, and future service needs) and to widen your search to include a Honda!
 
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ShadBurke

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local dealer yamaha f200 I4.

benchmark price will be boats.net pricing plus several hundred dollars.

Rigging will be $1,500- $2,700 depending on gauge package plus labor of 8-10 hours at $125/hr plus prop if needed.

And of course, sales tax......
 
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Slater

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Reading the engine reviews within the website, to me it appears that they may have all be written by the same person....
 
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oceanski

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Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'll be shopping around locally in the near future. I looked into Honda but would like to stick with Yamaha and possibly Suzuki to save a little bit of money. From the research I've done it seems that you can't go wrong with the Yamaha 200.
 
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apogee

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Buy one out of Florida (no tax) and have it shipped to a dealer for installation..........
 
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tanner.s

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Besides for the fact it is basically a Yami 150, you're right, people seem to like them.
Even if it is the same block, still outputs 50 more hp. That's a considerable gain without adding weight.

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tanner.s

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That's interesting, I wonder why that is. Being of similar weight, adding 50hp should be a considerable performance gain but I guess not.

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Canyon

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That's interesting, I wonder why that is. Being of similar weight, adding 50hp should be a considerable performance gain but I guess not.

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In what I've read from industry reports, is that the Yam 150 is an over-powered 150 and the new Yam i4-200 is a considerably under-powered 200. The 150 doesn't require premium fuel like the i4-200 as well.

Just something to consider when you will have to pay a considerable price jump for the new 200 over the 150. People love both, so you can't go wrong with either, but the extra 50hp rating is a bit deceiving (solely based on internet research...).
 
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tanner.s

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In what I've read from industry reports, is that the Yam 150 is an over-powered 150 and the new Yam i4-200 is a considerably under-powered 200. The 150 doesn't require premium fuel like the i4-200 as well.

Just something to consider when you will have to pay a considerable price jump for the new 200 over the 150. People love both, so you can't go wrong with either, but the extra 50hp rating is a bit deceiving (solely based on internet research...).
Good to know, that's an interesting move by Yamaha. Didn't know about the premium fuel either, though it makes sense.

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bparker1225

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Sea Witch Marine put a 150 yamaha on my Cabo 4 years ago. Best choice I ever made. Speed is not a main issue in the Cabo most of the time. Conditions do more to dictate the speed I go. I never run at top speed. Friday we ran 150 miles and burned 43 gallons of fuel with three people and 100 plus pounds of ice. The 200!would be great but higher compression ratio requiring higher octane fuel I will stick with my 150. Trim tabs and correct propeller are everything.
 
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apogee

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I suggest. You read about the counterbalance crank weight system before you launch on either the 150 or the 200 Yamaha. The good news is that a guy with moderate skill can do the fix.........
 
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SeaHawk IV

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I have a Suzuki DF175 on a 216. It's rated for minimum 87 octane but Suzuki suggest 91 octane (Research Method.) I've only used 91 octane in addition with Starbrite StarTron and motor just purrs. So quite, you forget it's running.

After 600+ hours, prop is spotless of carbon deposits. Regular maintenance is very easy to service yourself. Quite fuel efficient and has plenty of power with 3 guys, 140+ pounds of ice, 16 rods and reels, loads of tackle with livewells full (40 gallons). Could use a tad bit more torque when the livewells are full out of the hole in washing machine conditions but no complaints.

With a full load, WOT to about 36MPH. With a light load, WOT to about 44 MPH. Usually cruise around 4000 to 4300RPM (20mph to 25mph) getting anywhere from 2.3 MPG (heavy load) to 3.8MPG light load with empty livewells.

The new release Suzuki DF200A (not the DF200) dry weight is very close to the DF175. Might want to check this motor out as well. The DF175 weights about 487 pounds dry. I would not suggest to hang a heavier motor as the water line will sit close to the top of the transom. If you relocate the batteries more forward then that would help. I have two 74 pound batteries that weighs down the stern which should be relocated.

Suzuki DF's has a timing chain and Yamaha has a timing belt. Besides those features, I think Yamaha and Suzuki are neck to neck with performance, reliability and warranty coverage. Both brands are winners.

I'm just a consumer and not a mechanic so this is my experience and opinions about Suzuki's.
 
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apogee

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I have a Suzuki DF175 on a 216. It's rated for minimum 87 octane but Suzuki suggest 91 octane (Research Method.) I've only used 91 octane in addition with Starbrite StarTron and motor just purrs. So quite, you forget it's running.

After 600+ hours, prop is spotless of carbon deposits. Regular maintenance is very easy to service yourself. Quite fuel efficient and has plenty of power with 3 guys, 140+ pounds of ice, 16 rods and reels, loads of tackle with livewells full (40 gallons). Could use a tad bit more torque when the livewells are full out of the hole in washing machine conditions but no complaints.

With a full load, WOT to about 36MPH. With a light load, WOT to about 44 MPH. Usually cruise around 4000 to 4300RPM (20mph to 25mph) getting anywhere from 2.3 MPG (heavy load) to 3.8MPG light load with empty livewells.

The new release Suzuki DF200A (not the DF200) dry weight is very close to the DF175. Might want to check this motor out as well. The DF175 weights about 487 pounds dry. I would not suggest to hang a heavier motor as the water line will sit close to the top of the transom. If you relocate the batteries more forward then that would help. I have two 74 pound batteries that weighs down the stern which should be relocated.

Suzuki DF's has a timing chain and Yamaha has a timing belt. Besides those features, I think Yamaha and Suzuki are neck to neck with performance, reliability and warranty coverage. Both brands are winners.

I'm just a consumer and not a mechanic so this is my experience and opinions about Suzuki's.

Nice.. Sounds efficient. I prefer a timing chain over a belt.......
 
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