Reel for 25-40(30)# bait rod

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On my last trip no one hooked a BFT on anything bigger than 30#, I looked and my oversized bass rod with a cardiff 400 and left it in the rack, was catching YT pretty good on my Tranx 400 and a jig but got me feeling like I need something that can handle a 50+ lb BFT with 50/65lb braid and 30 or 40# flouro leader. I have a Daiwa sealine X30 full of braid(I know i should have brought it) but second guessing the drag on it. thinking about getting an avet SX6/4 and possibly upgrading my rod from 7' to 7'6" or 8" for better casting. I could fish the Sealine on a 7' rod and not spend any money, just curious if its worth missing a trip next month to get a better setup.... I have the big stuff covered with a TLD30II and FTN40nLD2 for flat falls and sinker rigs. just need a solid live bait rig.
 
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No, don't skip the trip to buy a new reel! Just use the Sealine, it'll do 30#.

I like the SX Raptor! The old SX 6/4 isn't a 30-40# reel. The newer SX 6/4 G2 does 30# easy and can do 40# too.
 
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Yes, I have both for 30. SX G2 all the way!! Gearing sucks on Sealine, and that’s a problem when tuna fishing. Drags are good on both.
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    On my last trip no one hooked a BFT on anything bigger than 30#, I looked and my oversized bass rod with a cardiff 400 and left it in the rack, was catching YT pretty good on my Tranx 400 and a jig but got me feeling like I need something that can handle a 50+ lb BFT with 50/65lb braid and 30 or 40# flouro leader. I have a Daiwa sealine X30 full of braid(I know i should have brought it) but second guessing the drag on it. thinking about getting an avet SX6/4 and possibly upgrading my rod from 7' to 7'6" or 8" for better casting. I could fish the Sealine on a 7' rod and not spend any money, just curious if its worth missing a trip next month to get a better setup.... I have the big stuff covered with a TLD30II and FTN40nLD2 for flat falls and sinker rigs. just need a solid live bait rig.
    Avet JX?
     
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    Yea the JX G2 is what I fish it will do 50-65 braid with 30 -50 lb leaders. Key is tto get a small diameter braid Jerry Brown is the smallest so you can get 400yrds of 65 or 450 or 50lb I fish mine with 65lb I got a 80lb BFT last year on a 30# leader and never felt under gun at all handle the fish easy. Also have smashed plenty of large grade YT to like 35lbs with no issue...
     
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    I have a JX 2 Speed, with 65lb 8 strand braid, with a short floro, top.
     
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    Fish the Sealine and maybe borrow a setup in case. That way you get time on water and shop at a later date.
     
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    Don't skip the trip, but if you get around to it get the Avet MXL 6/4...


    Plenty of capacity on the spool and max drag of #14 easily fishes #30 line and can fish #40 line. Can attest first hand they are able to land fish over #50.

    Actually, looks like it's only $35 more to get the Gen 2 which would put you at #20 max drag to fish anywhere from #30 line up to #50 line.


    Or get the Gen 1 and save the $35 for braid?
     
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    If I do get “new” reel it will be second hand(used) I won’t ever fish 50# as that is the fathom and my 30/80# rods job. I’ve got some gear I am trying to sell to pay for the new reel so if I can clear enough cash before my next trip I can have my reel and fish it too, haha. I’ll try to post my stuff in the classifieds tonight but I’ll drop a link for now...

    Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/6fBAUGmXpgb

    I might sell my sealine 30 and the 7’ 15-30# rod too... anyway I think I have a plan now, thanks for all the suggestions.
     
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    2 speed is over kill and not needed for this set up, waste of money if you go Avet just get the G2 series single speed , you dont even need the MC unless your not that good at cast then maybe get it reel come set perfect if you have some basic casting skills!!
     
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    If I do get “new” reel it will be second hand(used) I won’t ever fish 50# as that is the fathom and my 30/80# rods job. I’ve got some gear I am trying to sell to pay for the new reel so if I can clear enough cash before my next trip I can have my reel and fish it too, haha. I’ll try to post my stuff in the classifieds tonight but I’ll drop a link for now...

    Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/6fBAUGmXpgb

    I might sell my sealine 30 and the 7’ 15-30# rod too... anyway I think I have a plan now, thanks for all the suggestions.
    Yes if you can find one on offer up or even Craig's list you can get a good deal they are just harder to find these day You could even get a MXJ single speed it would be fine as well.
     
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    I got Monster 8 srand Braid 65 & 50lb test 547 yard, each spool on Alibaba, for $35.00, and, used 80lb Dacron for backing on a piece of white waterproff medical tape. Used 50 on my Avet MXL 5.8, and 65 on my Avet JX 2 speed. $35. for 2 spools of 547yards.

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    2 speed is over kill and not needed for this set up, waste of money if you go Avet just get the G2 series single speed , you dont even need the MC unless your not that good at cast then maybe get it reel come set perfect if you have some basic casting skills!!
    Respectfully disagree that 2 speed is over kill.

    In this specific instance he's fishing for #50+ BFT (so #65-#75 fish). I agree a 2-speed reel is not a requirement, but given the option I'd rather fish with the 2-speed and not use the low gear than fish a single speed, hook a beast, and wish I had low gear. If he was targeting smaller bluefin in the #25-#40 range, I think a single speed would be just fine.

    Just my $0.02.
     

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    Probably going 2-speed if I can afford it, check out the new stuff I just posted in the classifieds if you want to donate to the cause...
     
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    Respectfully disagree that 2 speed is over kill.

    In this specific instance he's fishing for #50+ BFT (so #65-#75 fish). I agree a 2-speed reel is not a requirement, but given the option I'd rather fish with the 2-speed and not use the low gear than fish a single speed, hook a beast, and wish I had low gear. If he was targeting smaller bluefin in the #25-#40 range, I think a single speed would be just fine.

    Just my $0.02.
    Yes well last year I smashed 2 BFT on my JX G2 4.6 single speed with 65lb braid and 30# leaders one was 80lb and the other was 45lb on a Phenix Black diamond 8ft H and kicked that fish ass with NO problem in about 20 minutes and the 45lb in less than 15 mins and never needed a low speed just saying... I fish Penn fathoms 2 speeds 40 and a 60 trust me it over kill!
     
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    I like the Penn Fathom 25N/2 speed. I use it with a 30-50# top shot depending of what's biting. Plenty of good choices. These reels are a bargain
    Go gettum, Mick
     
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    Don't skip the trip, but if you get around to it get the Avet MXL 6/4...


    Plenty of capacity on the spool and max drag of #14 easily fishes #30 line and can fish #40 line. Can attest first hand they are able to land fish over #50.

    Actually, looks like it's only $35 more to get the Gen 2 which would put you at #20 max drag to fish anywhere from #30 line up to #50 line.


    Or get the Gen 1 and save the $35 for braid?
    Don't go based on max drag, use the strike drag number. If, towards the end of the fight you need more drag to lift the fish, you'll be able to go beyond strike, but don't assume you can go the whole fight at max. You may or may not be able to get their max strike number without loosing freespool.

    Besides, you can land fish over 50# with 10# of drag!
     
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    Don't go based on max drag, use the strike drag number. If, towards the end of the fight you need more drag to lift the fish, you'll be able to go beyond strike, but don't assume you can go the whole fight at max. You may or may not be able to get their max strike number without loosing freespool.

    Besides, you can land fish over 50# with 10# of drag!
    Correct - totally agree.

    Was just using max drag as a reference point.
     
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    Prior to 2016, a small 2-speed to fish 30-pound was the "red headed stepchild".
    Now, its pretty much a "must", when the 50-75 pounders simply won't bite anything heavier than 30-pound.
    Since you already have [and presumably like] a larger Fathom 2-speed, a good choice would be the FTH15LD2.
    Set it up with 350/40 braid, then topshot with around 25 yards of 30-pound mono.
    Be sure to set your drag with a scale, and know exactly what setting is where, you will be amazed at what you can catch with it.
     
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    I like my fathom 40N for fishing heavy jigs and sinker rigs, the spool is a little heavy for fly-lining, I’m sure it is better on the smaller reels. I kinda wanted something new to try. What reel in this category has the lightest spool?
     
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    I like my fathom 40N for fishing heavy jigs and sinker rigs, the spool is a little heavy for fly-lining, I’m sure it is better on the smaller reels. I kinda wanted something new to try. What reel in this category has the lightest spool?



    The 40N is substantially larger than the 15 size, with a much heavier spool holding nearly the triple the amount of line; the two are not comparable in any way at that level.
    The 15LD2 is about as good a flyliner as you can get in a 2-speed lever drag.
    True that a same-size star drag like an FTH15 would be a little better for casting very small baits, but it would defeat what [I think] your purpose is- which is to catch tuna of a previously unrealistic size when they will only bite 30-pound line.
    A lever drag gives much smoother and more powerful drag performance than any star drag, and also allows more fine gradients of adjustment.
    Add that to a 2-speed's ability to "grind" the fish steadily, without having to "pump and wind" is well worth the minor tradeoff in castability.
    If I am incorrect about your goal, and you are just looking for a nice reel to handle lighter duties and "school size" tuna, then a small star drag is definitely the way to go.
     
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    Prior to 2016, a small 2-speed to fish 30-pound was the "red headed stepchild".
    Now, its pretty much a "must", when the 50-75 pounders simply won't bite anything heavier than 30-pound.
    Since you already have [and presumably like] a larger Fathom 2-speed, a good choice would be the FTH15LD2.
    Set it up with 350/40 braid, then topshot with around 25 yards of 30-pound mono.
    Be sure to set your drag with a scale, and know exactly what setting is where, you will be amazed at what you can catch with it.
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    The 40N is substantially larger than the 15 size, with a much heavier spool holding nearly the triple the amount of line; the two are not comparable in any way at that level.
    The 15LD2 is about a good a flyliner as you can get in a 2-speed lever drag.
    True that a same-size star drag like an FTH15 would be a little better for casting very small baits, but it would defeat what [I think] your purpose is- which is to catch tuna of a previously unrealistic size when they will only bite 30-pound line.
    A lever drag gives much smoother and more powerful drag performance than any star drag, and also allows more fine gradients of adjustment.
    Add that to a 2-speed's ability to "grind" the fish steadily, without having to "pump and wind" is well worth the minor tradeoff in castability.
    If I am incorrect about your goal, and you are just looking for a nice reel to handle lighter duties and "school size" tuna, then a small star drag is definitely the way to go.
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    I have a torque 15ld2 for this, fathom would work well too. One thing to consider is the fathom has a thrust bearing..
    the 15xnld2 is nice too and gets more drag but I prefer the wider spool on the 15 for bait.
     
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