Red diamond Rattlesnake.....

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26grumpy

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if there is a danger no amount of training will prevent him from putting himself between it and me......none....that is in his DNA....

But how loyal are you?

Say for instance Buster got bit on the dick, would you suck the poison out ?

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LT is correct...know your game, gents. Red diamond rattlers are now protected in CA
they may be protected from hunting them, but per the dept of fish and wildilfe you can remove and kill rattlesnakes of any species if it poses a threat to you. We do not relocate them in the fire service and neither will fish and wildlife. Don't try and cause conflict and accuse us of doing something illegal if you don't know the facts.
 
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Guys, like others have said Red Diamonds are protected in California. I can't stop you from killing them if you feel like they're posing a threat, but you might want to think twice about making it this public
 
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I already went through this the last time I posted.......They come on my property they die ....they post a threat to me and my family........and my family includes my dog......Sarah with having a patch on her heart and her health issues would not survive a bite....
 
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CALIFORNIA RATTLESNAKES
-
SOME GENERAL INFORMATION
California Department of Fish and Game
Wildlife Branch
, Nongame Wildlife Program
(
6/13/2012)
General information:
Rattlesnakes are
California
’s only venomous snakes
. Taxonomy fluctuates, but
we have
approximately
46
native snake species
, of which seven are rattlesnakes: Western diamondback, sidewinder, speckled,
Western, red diamond, Mojave and Panamint.
To distinguish rattlesnakes
from harmless native snakes, remember rattlesnakes have a distinct,
triangular
-
shaped head, and usually have rattles at the end of their tail. They do not always rattle before
striking. If you see a rattlesnake
, back away and avoid the animal

it strikes
humans only in self

defense.
http://www.californiaherps.com/info/findsnakes.html
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildl
ife/nongame/genplantsanimals.html
Commonly encountered California snakes:
http://www.californiaherps.com/identification/snakesid/common.html
(N
ote t
hat the color pattern of gopher
and garter
snakes can resemble that of rattlesnakes)
Living with rattlesnakes:
If you live in snake habitat you will likely encounter snakes. You can lessen your chances of rattlesnakes
residing
on your property by taking t
he precautions identified in the sources below.
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74119.html
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/news/issues/snake.html
http://www.californiaherps.com/info/rattlesnakeinfo.html
http://icwdm.org/wild
life/rattlesnake.asp
(out of state but some good info)
Although you may legally kill
or remove
rattlesnakes, try
to make your environment
less hospitable to
them instead, or the problem will likely continue
.
Remember, all native snakes are part of the
ecosystem
and are beneficial

gopher snakes eat rodents, and
the beautiful kingsnake actually kills and eats
rattlesnakes!
 
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marlyn

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    they may be protected from hunting them, but per the dept of fish and wildilfe you can remove and kill rattlesnakes of any species if it poses a threat to you. We do not relocate them in the fire service and neither will fish and wildlife. Don't try and cause conflict and accuse us of doing something illegal if you don't know the facts.
    Yep,my nephew is a battalion chief in san marcos and they kill them often.
     
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    Jeff Lemm

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    They just became protected this year; i know that f+g allows you to take them on your property if they pose a threat. The fact is that red diamonds rarely pose a threat. Kill them and you get a greater risk of disease from all the rodents and squirrels
     
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    Redwood100

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    If bit, hope you have insurance.~$3500 per anti venom vial for Rattlers. It took someone I know 7 vials to counter the one bite he received... so that's ~$25,000. Ouch!
     
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    @-EZ

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    They just became protected this year; i know that f+g allows you to take them on your property if they pose a threat. The fact is that red diamonds rarely pose a threat. Kill them and you get a greater risk of disease from all the rodents and squirrels


    Who is F&G?
     
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    Gil Marlin

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    The DFW website is impossible to use, I couldn't find a complete list of regulations regarding rattlesnakes anywhere, just bits and pieces. The only thing I found is that you don't need a fishing license to possess a rattler like you do with other reptiles. Crotalus ruber is protected from being collected, but not from being killed. Isn't there a Fish and Game guy somewhere that can site the actual codes for this???
     
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    Jeff Lemm

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    That info on their site is old. C. Ruber has zero take. All others have a limit of two. Yes, bites are extremely expensive to treat, but over 90% of bites are from people catching or killing them. If you leave them alone they will wander off and it is rare to see the same animal again
     
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    marlyn

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    I dont have reds but i dont care what color they are they all die on my property!Theres an old thread on here somewhere from years ago when a southern pacific bit my dog,A few grand to vet to save him,plus i have grandkids that play out there too.
    One thing i did learn is i used to buy quail blocks of pressed seed to feed the quail and that was attracting rodents along with the birds which in turn attracts snakes,no bueno!
     
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