Recent Flatfall info - Pacifica and others

IronMikeAC

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Pacific yesterday reports great fishing on 100-200lb bft on flatfalls. He mentioned 250g. Does anyone know color, other sizes, etc from the Pacifica or other recent trips?

I'm heading out on a 3.5 day TG80 trip tonite. Stoked to say the least. Weather looks to be great. Sorry, but these reports are insane, and one day, our kids won't believe them.

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surfgoose

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I've found that flatfall-type flutter lures around 200 to 250 grams fall the best. If they are heavier they get down faster but with almost no flutter. If the captain says that they are really deep or I need to get down fast, I use a knife jig. You can also ride the edge of your spool as the lure drops, which prevents it from fluttering.

Replace the bottom assist hooks with a large, strong J hook, and move the assist hooks to the top of the lure. Be sure to use a couple of feet of very strong mono or fluoro for chafe protection against the sharp teeth. The lure will end up deep in the mouth most of the time.

The color that works best overall is the glow paint. You can buy the lures fully set up at the landing if you don't have time to rig it yourself. With a 3.5-day you will almost certainly get a turn or two on the kite rig, be sure to take your turn. The biggest fish are caught that way. And I strongly suggest that you make friends with others on the boat and the deck hands, the fish that are GAFFED are very often tag-teamed by two or more fishermen working together. Lots of big tuna are lost by people trying to go one-on-one with those brutes, and unless you are an NFL player who has just ended his season, you are probably not going to be strong enough all by yourself to fight quickly enough to get him up before he gets away.

Have a great trip! I'm looking forward to your report!
 

chilidip

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I believe the big ones are being hooked early mornings and at nightfall & evenings.

I plan on rigging up a 250g glow in the dark (size 10/0 hooks) with 4 feet of 200lb Floro. Waiting for the nicopress crimper and crimps from Basil to arrive.

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Check out the Nomad Gypsy and Buffalo jigs too! Definitely run some very heavy mono for a leader. The glows work great I also like the candy cane looking ones with the stripes.
 

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Pacific yesterday reports great fishing on 100-200lb bft on flatfalls. He mentioned 250g. Does anyone know color, other sizes, etc from the Pacifica or other recent trips?

I'm heading out on a 3.5 day TG80 trip tonite. Stoked to say the least. Weather looks to be great. Sorry, but these reports are insane, and one day, our kids won't believe them.

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I'm leaving on a 10 day 2 weeks from today, I've talked to quite a few tackle stores I've done business with for many years, and asking questions about proper rigging for flatfall type jigs. Lots of opinions, I'm definitely going to have quite a few, nomads and shimano flatfall jigs. Having some jobu hooks for the bottom, and kevlar assist hooks, rigged at meltons. Talked to a guy at fishermans landing tackle store the other day, he said there rigging is what the long range boats want. They use 200# izor floro and assist hooks with kevlar rigging. I'm going to have a good selection, but it seems there isn't a really general consensus about the absolute best rigging! Biggest bluefin I've caught on a flatfall type jig was around 60#. I have 50 okuma makiras and united composites rail rods for cow yellowfin, terminal tackle is spot on, just want to have my jigs rigged perfectly! Any really good suggestions would be appreciated !
 

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I leave Friday on a 6 day and I have talked to everyone I know that has been out recently. Most people say that the way to go is a 200g or 250g super glow during the dark hours. Once the sun comes up switch to a 200g or 250g pink and blue flatfall, the one they call a Katy Perry. They also say the pink and blue Colt sniper in 60g or 90g also works well in the daytime but you definitely have to change out the hooks to something bigger. The sinker rig also works during the day with a 4oz or 6oz torpedo sinker but don't go too lite with your line because recently they have hooked some really nice fish on the sinker rig.
 
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Blind Luck

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Check out the Nomad Gypsy and Buffalo jigs too! Definitely run some very heavy mono for a leader. The glows work great I also like the candy cane looking ones with the stripes.
Just got back from a 6day on Vagabond
Lost a Nomad Buffalo 320 gram crimson when 100# line snapped between 200# leader and 130# braid.
Landed a 135# on a 250 gram Shimano FF..
Both "rerigged/hooked"
Both fish bit on fast retrieval...starting at 350'
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I'm leaving on a 10 day 2 weeks from today, I've talked to quite a few tackle stores I've done business with for many years, and asking questions about proper rigging for flatfall type jigs. Lots of opinions, I'm definitely going to have quite a few, nomads and shimano flatfall jigs. Having some jobu hooks for the bottom, and kevlar assist hooks, rigged at meltons. Talked to a guy at fishermans landing tackle store the other day, he said there rigging is what the long range boats want. They use 200# izor floro and assist hooks with kevlar rigging. I'm going to have a good selection, but it seems there isn't a really general consensus about the absolute best rigging! Biggest bluefin I've caught on a flatfall type jig was around 60#. I have 50 okuma makiras and united composites rail rods for cow yellowfin, terminal tackle is spot on, just want to have my jigs rigged perfectly! Any really good suggestions would be appreciated !
Come again? You have 50 okuma makairas?
 
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Nice fish.

320 gram and a 316lber. Saw this pic from a Royal Star LB trip. Caught a much smaller BFT on the same color smaller size buffalo last season. Just sharing fish porn. Good luck fishers

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Blind Luck

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One key is the leader
Tried to take a decent picture of my 200# flouro after a short fight...lots of abrasion...not swallowed
Oh...and cut me slack on picture...I really can't see shit...lol
 

IronMikeAC

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So here's my answer. A shiny flatfall DEEP (400 feet) on 100lb mono to crimped 200lb mono leader. On our trip the all glows didn't get bit at night. The ones with something shiny did. Daytime the colt snipers were productive.


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Way to go, Mike! I'd be happy to break that new rod in on a fish half that big.
 

IronMikeAC

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They're out there. Like I said, the flatfalls need to be rigged and send em deep.
This big one bit with the flatfall static while we were untangling the flatfall that snagged my line next to me. Could've been real serious but the guys let go as soon as he bit.
 

909fishslayer

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Another update on this. Went out this weekend and flatfall bite for jumbos was wide open on 80-160 lbers. Several going at once for over an hour. All experienced anglers with at least 16 size reels not one lost to gear and all under 20 min. I asked everyone to look at their flatfalls. Each one was rigged different. One guy had a single j hook. My dad had 2 assist hooks top 2 assist hooks bottom. One guy had 2 j hooks on bottom. One had stock hooks. The colors were all different. Silver, blue, chrome, zebra, glow. Didnt matter. I may of been the only guy waisting time with a blacklight. Light didnt have any effect forcthose not using one. Here is my conclusion. We are all way overthinking this. Only thing that matters is 200# or greater leader and upgraded hooks may or may not help with fish under 200lbs. Hope this helps. Alot more info on these jigs now that the bites so hot on them. More info to pool from.

Here are a few ways all crimped to 200# 4’ of floro and swivel.

update: The #9 owner split rings ultra have been holding this year on super cows and not opening up so fine to use to attach hooks etc

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IronMikeAC

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To further your point, I got 3 bft on jjgs: first one a 500 gram knife jig with squid tenticles, second one on a anormal 250g Shimano glow/white flatfall (top fixed ring broke when it came on deck) lazt one on a shimmery green and chrome Shimano 200g flatfall that caught the 250lb bft. The they all had 200lb crimped leader which was key on the 250. It also had a welded bottom J hook I connected with brass brazing to close the hook eye. That hook was bent to a dog-leg by the fight and locked down drag pressurs.
 

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Thanks to all for posting great information. Going out on a 4.5 day in 10 days, hope they stick around. Kites, balloons, big bait rigs, sinker rigs, flat falls, will try them all.
 
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