RAT YELLOWS

Discussion in 'Fishing Chit Chat' started by stickandstay, May 20, 2016.

  1. stickandstay

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    Whats the over under on how many 5 lb yellows die this year. Can't believe what I'm reading and seeing. What a joke !

    Enough is enough

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  2. jer dog

    jer dog Fishing is life

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    well they say if their legal it ok, 5 under 24 inches and 5 over
    these guys that are Keeping them are meat fisherman not
    Sport fisherman
     
  3. Slice-Of-Life

    Slice-Of-Life SoCal Hoo and Blue Club

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    It's not just the LA boats at Catalina doing it the SD fleet was raping the 2-3lb yellows last year off kelps. Sure there is a few boat who don't let it happen but in the end people pay to go on a trip. Nothing wrong with keeping legal fish.
     
  4. Blackfish

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    So a guy gets to go out on a party boat maybe twice a year, and he takes 5 Rats each trip. This makes him a bad person.

    There is a difference between the weekend warrior going out every weekend and a guy scraping up a few dollars to go enjoy a expensive hobby, and put some food on the table.
     
  5. SouthBayKiller

    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    A 50lb yellow and a 5lb yellow are equal on the fish count.

    But the limits are what they are, so as long as they are legally available I don't see much sense in complaining.

    I also bet the boats who are reporting the numbers don't care as long as the tickets sell.

    Probably should have seen this coming after the clouds of 4" yellows were all over the paddies last summer.
     
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  6. critical

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    Shoot. I started releasing the big ones and eating the small ones.
     
  7. DannyNoonan

    DannyNoonan Smarter than I look...

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    From a fisherman's pride perspective, it seems pretty lame. From the perspective of overall fishery health, it's probably better to leave the larger ones and keep the smaller - as long as the numbers are the same. But last year the fish processors got tired of dealing with rats - they either won't deal with them OR might charge a premium.

    Personally, I find all of the 5" reds being harvested on the half day trips more irritating...
     
  8. invictus

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    I know when I was fishing 1/2 and 3/4 day boats, maybe 4-5 times a year, if I got a Yellowtail, it went in the bag, even a 2-3 pounder. Even the first few years I owned a boat, a small YT went home. After starting to fish overnights and longer, I started to see kelps loaded with rats, and honestly kept my fair share. After a while just keeping fish lost novelty and I started to get selective, even going against the boat if needed. Not that I am above keeping a 7 pounder plus on the coast or after a long day of slow fishing for ceviche'.

    I think this is the way we evolve as sportsman. We begin to see the fish and fishery differently, and certainly we have more success, which makes it easier to "let 'em go and grow."
     
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  9. Carl

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    I don't like the term rats.
     
  10. slydawg

    slydawg Always wishin' I was fishin'

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    Take one....
     
  11. watersdeep

    watersdeep I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    You are referring to the PURSUIT correct?

    BAhahaha!
     
  12. wils

    wils lazy-ass well known "member"

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    how much is the total cost these days for an overnight trip? $200+ I'm guessing.
    how much food do you get out of 5 - 5# yt? 10#s at the most? thats pretty darned expensive for a guy who has to scrape together $200+ to feed his famliy.

    bad analogy.

    how about this analogy/reality: the sport boats are wiping out future meals from their own families' tables due to decimating the fish that keep them in business.
     
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    I throw rats back period !! Let them grow up folks....
     
  14. jer dog

    jer dog Fishing is life

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    it used to be called fishing, now the most important thing is catching
    those people that are trying to put food on the Table, should go to
    Costco and buy it.
     
  15. C-4 Fishing

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    It gets on my nerves as well, however, I have been a culprit of doing it in the past.
    If you care about it enough then do something about it and contact your local rep and try to make a change. Making a post in here ain't gonna do shit but get yourself a lot of hate coming your way. It's sad to see a boat load of dead rats but it's legal.
     
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    watersdeep I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    They will make more, always have always will.
     
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  17. spize909

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    Exactly......so with all the "rats" taken last year you can see that no yellowtail were left for this year. You can see it in the counts!
    They will adjust the regs/limits if they see fit.

    Curious.....what defines a "rat" and when does it become a "firecracker" Can I keep a firecracker?
     
  18. Blackfish

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    Wils, Jer Dog, Its the guy who's hobby, is fishing. Which is why he/she goes. and they only go a few times each season. The food is the bonus.

    The YT have never been a rare catch. The bag and size limit seems to be working.
    I don't think the sports boats are wiping out the population. In fact, the YT population IMO has been doing just fine. The past five years the numbers have been way better then in years past. Both big and small.

    Where is the outrage over bonita and cuda being kept. My bet most of that fish ends up in a dumpster.

    In all honesty, I would rather eat a 5-10 pounder rat, over a 15 plus pounder. Less mercury. The big ones are fun to pull on, and over the years, I have become more of a catch and release angler, because i like my fish fresh. If I do keep more then a few, I give them to my friends. My freezer is bare right now.

    All these people who get on a high horse, how many have a freezer full of year old freezer burned fish?
     
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  19. jer dog

    jer dog Fishing is life

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    the same or they been called a couple Taco's
     
  20. wils

    wils lazy-ass well known "member"

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    thats an excellent attitude, blackfish. good luck with that.

    if I am "on a high horse", then youre riding what? a high ....... donkey?
     

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