Ranger 85 cited, fishing on the Osborne Bank for rockfish!!!

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California Department of Fish and Wildlife News Release

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - March 20, 2013
Contacts:
Lt. Wes Boyle, CDFW Law Enforcement, (805) 331-7051
Mark Michilizzi, CDFW Law Enforcement, (916) 996-9003

CDFW Wildlife Officers Stop and Cite Channel Islands Fishermen

California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) marine officers cited several boats for fishing in the Marine Protected Areas and other resource violations near the Channel Islands on Sunday.

Wildlife Officers from the CDFW patrol boat Swordfish, based in Ventura Harbor, contacted three private boats and one commercial passenger fishing vessel (CPFV) and found violations onboard all four boats.

Anglers on the private boats were cited for fishing inside a Marine Protected Area, fishing without a license, taking a rockfish in a closed area and two citations for taking rockfish in water deeper than 120 feet.

The fourth boat, Ranger 85, an 85-foot long CPFV was stopped and inspected at the Osborne Bank, 5 miles south of Santa Barbara Island, inside the Cowcod Conservation Area (CCA). Fishing in the CCA is restricted to depth of 120 feet or less. The boat was fishing at a depth of at least 170 feet. The captain and five crew members were cited for multiple Fish and Game Code violations, including take of rockfish in closed waters, over limits of ocean whitefish and over limits of general fishing. The limit on ocean whitefish is 10 per day per angler and the boat had 371 ocean whitefish, 195 assorted rockfish, 12 sheephead and 33 boccacio for 30 anglers, and a total of 611 fish, well over the legal limits.

“The Marine Protected Areas were established to help fish species recover and thrive,” said Lt. Wes Boyle, captain of the Swordfish. “Every fisherman and boat captain needs to be 100 percent aware of the MPA areas and boundaries.”

The captain was also cited for a logbook violation.

The Swordfish returned to Ventura Harbor and with the help of several local wildlife officers made arraignments to donate the fish to several local food banks and charities.

In the first three months of this year the Swordfish has issued 39 citations, 33 of those were for fishing in an MPA, as well as five dock and shore citations for possession of undersized lobster, take of garibaldi, and commercial take of undersized sea urchin.

For complete listings of the Marine Protected Areas go to www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/mpa_summary.asp or on a smart phone at www.dfg.ca.gov/m/MPA .
 
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What about the passengers? Do they get sited? You gotta know how many fish you have caught, more or less.

It's up to the officer from what I understand. They can site the passengers, especially if it's only a bag or two, but if in general it appears the majority of the boat's passengers are engaged in illeagal activity, then the boat and it's crew is often cited. It's a risk these captians are taking to fill their customers sacks. Tornado got busted last year for stuff, and several other boats at times take the risk. I think the fact that now people can fish in cow cod closures as long as it's under 20 fathoms and keep reds makes the risk look more enticing. Used to be if at SBI or San Nicholas Island with reds in possesion was a fine as they were no red zones. Anyways, yeah, people should know what they have in their bag or not, but often times, the way it works is if you have your limit, keep fishing and the boat will sort out the extras to give them to other people or the crew or whatever. Hopefully, all works out for everyone, at least the extra fish wasn't released to the wild but rather it'll be used to feed others.
 
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I just found out they were on a 2 day trip, thus the numbers looked worse than they really were.
Add to that the weather was up, their reason for being there. Yes, you can drop in 17 fathoms and be legal, but reel them up in 25 fathoms and you are breaking the law.
 
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I've seen party boats fishing in illegal waters before...definitely not surprising that happened.
 
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    on the other thread on this, it was stated that the Ranger had left on the trip Fri night, had fished Sat, and was boarded while fishing at some point on Sun....If that means the anglers(+crew) are allowed 2x the daily limit in possession then by my math they are within limits. The 170+' is a different story.
     
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    Very good Carl thank you.there's a lot more to this story than f&G's version
    on the other thread on this, it was stated that the Ranger had left on the trip Fri night, had fished Sat, and was boarded while fishing at some point on Sun....If that means the anglers(+crew) are allowed 2x the daily limit in possession then by my math they are within limits. The 170+' is a different story.
     
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    Thank you also couple guys are thinking outside the Lynch mob box
    I just found out they were on a 2 day trip, thus the numbers looked worse than they really were.
    Add to that the weather was up, their reason for being there. Yes, you can drop in 17 fathoms and be legal, but reel them up in 25 fathoms and you are breaking the law.
     
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    Federal MPA boundary corner coordinates:
    (Textual boundary descriptions and related regulations are available in the Federal Register 15 CFR Part 922 and 50 CFR Part 660).

    33° 21.792' N. lat., 118° 54.527' W. long.
    33° 21.792' N. lat., 119° 02.200' W. long.
    33° 25.008' N. lat., 119° 02.200' W. long.
    33° 28.500' N. lat., 118° 58.248' W. long.
    33° 28.500' N. lat., 118° 54.527' W. long.

    Permitted/Prohibited Uses: Take of all living marine resources is prohibited.
     
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    These closures are just BS.
    Based on BS science.
     
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    These closures are just BS.
    Based on BS science.

    This is true,but the fact is,they are closed areas,and it doesn`t give the sportboats the right to fish them.In my opinion,they are the ones killing the fish numbers.600+ fish?Even though it may be legal numbers for a 2 day,30 private boats could have hella fun fishing and keep 20 fish each to equal that!
     
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    This is true,but the fact is,they are closed areas,and it doesn`t give the sportboats the right to fish them.In my opinion,they are the ones killing the fish numbers.600+ fish?Even though it may be legal numbers for a 2 day,30 private boats could have hella fun fishing and keep 20 fish each to equal that!

    So on one hand you bad mouth the sportie for acting outside the law, then in the next breath condemn him for taking what's legally allowed?? I'm glad you dont make the rules!!
     
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    So on one hand you bad mouth the sportie for acting outside the law, then in the next breath condemn him for taking what's legally allowed?? I'm glad you dont make the rules!!

    Do you know what condemn means?
    Condemn | Define Condemn at Dictionary.com
    verb (used with object) 1. to express an unfavorable or adverse judgment on; indicate strong disapproval of; censure. 2. to pronounce to be guilty; sentence to ..isn`t that the same as bad mouthing him?Just wondering.
     
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    This is true,but the fact is,they are closed areas,and it doesn`t give the sportboats the right to fish them.In my opinion,they are the ones killing the fish numbers.600+ fish?Even though it may be legal numbers for a 2 day,30 private boats could have hella fun fishing and keep 20 fish each to equal that!

    Huh? What is your point? Of course closed areas shouldn't be fished.

    But do you really think people with money to afford their own boats have more right to keep a daily limit of fish than us poor schmucks who book a spot on a party boat?

    ... or That is there's less environmental impact when 600 fish are killed by people on 30 boats burning fuel instead of killed by people sharing one big boat?

    Make some sense please.
     
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    This guy is a real smart one.You get a ticket or something ? They got caught this time,makes me wonder how many times they didnt get caught.
     
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