I knew a guy that used them for spotfin croakers in the San Onofre area. That's all he used. They stay on the hook much better than other baits. Long rod, long cast.I knew an old guy many years ago that would get them while pumping ghost shrimp. He'd slit them lengthwise then cut it into strips about 1/4" wide. He would poke the strip,wrap it around the hook once, poke it again,wrap around etc and use the bait to catch spotfin croaker in Mission Bay. On a long rod(shorefishing) you can cast the innkeeper bait a lot harder and farther than you can a ghost shrimp. And he caught a lot of fish. It should work for surf perch,corbina,yfc etc.