Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by bsumoba, Mar 13, 2012.
So what are the pros and cons to a spring 8 day (early july) vs a fall 8 day (early october)....
Hard to call july a spring trip, definitely more like summer. The advantage of fall is that it really is as good as it is going to get for waters in that range (Alijos Rocks to The Ridge and Thetis Bank).
If it's a cold water year then july can be off for the warmest water species (tuna and sometimes wahoo), but something will fill in as needed (ie yellows and such at Guadalupe or Cedros).
It's rarely a question of catching as much as what kind of catching you do.
If you have a choice go fall. a july trip is what you do when you can't go in the fall, imo.
Fall has better weather (warmer and less wind) with a shot at wahoo on the Ridge.
As mentioned July isn't really a Spring trip. A real Spring trip is late May and early June. The costs of those trips make them very attractive as they are the best value of the season. That being said the reason they are cheaper is because of the risks. The Tuna may not have arrived yet. Weather can suck balls....Yellowtail is almost a gaurantee. In the fall you have better weather and a chance at all the species Baja has to offer. July Vs. Fall......I would agree....you go only go in July cause you couldn't get the time off.....or in my case....couldn't wait for Fall to arrive.
Spring less time to dream
IMO I would always opt for the Fall trip if you have a choice.....better weather...warmer water.....better weather....oh did I mention better weather....lol
Have done an earlier 8 day for the past ten or so years. Fishing the July 8 day on Intrepid this year. Never fished a July 8 day and am looking forward to it.
As far as the weather goes, it is always a roll of the dice. It can be good or bad either season. Some of the best weather I've seen has been on earlier trips and I've had my ass professionally kicked in the Fall. And one year's trip is not a guarantee of the same reults the next year. Just ask Dave about the Sport Chalet 8 day on the Angler.
The pricing on the early trips, like the ones on the Angler, can be especially attractive. Best to pick some dates that work for you and book the trip. If you fish the July trip this year, you're certainly young enough to pick something different for next year. Fall 8 day trips that look good to me would be the Penn 8 day on the Angler or the Seaguar/Catchy/Hayabusa trip on the Rooster, both in early October.
When I think of 8 day trips, I immediately put Alijos in the equation. And, last year, in the fall, Alijos was completely unfishable due to the swarms of brown sharks.
Fishing's like a box of chocolates......
But those brownies sure can pull on 40#
Spring forward, Fall back. . .
i can't wait!.... looks like the july trip for me. its either 3 months or 7 months. plus, I am hoping the current projections shows la nina neutralizing, thus maybe a push of warm water after may time frame.
anyone here anything about this?
I was looking at the 8day on the Shogun in early June.
After reading this post, I think I am going to look into a trip around sept/oct. Thanks for the input guys!
The nice thing about a June 8 day, the price is usually less money. It's a gamble, but can be stellar.
I've done quite a few June or July 8 day trips. Most years(all but last year) I've filled my tuna tags. Some years it's been wide open schoolie yellowfins at the rocks. Some years tougher fishing but nicer fish at the rocks. Another year was unbelievable fishing for larger bluefins. Usually(again not last year) you have easy albacore fishing. You can pretty much expect good yellowtail fishing- surface iron was king last year.
The weather can be iffy, but I've also seen water skiable conditions at Alijos and offshore. Grease calm at Alijos watching tuna destroying flyers is pretty awesome.
Spring 8 day Pros;
Chance at Albies, Bluefin
YT fishing a slam dunk
Long fishing Days
Weather can be up
Too cold for YFT to bite well(recently)
No Guadalupe option
Early for Hoos( a few can be caught)
Just what I have encountered on a late June early July 8 over the last 6 years. Let's hope LaNena goes neutral.
So I just booked the 8-day RRIII July 7th-15th Beefer XIII trip. I did have the opportunity for the 8-day Hightower, but the itch needs to be scratched. let's cross fingers the warm water pushes, the weather is good, and the fish are biting.
anyone on this trip?
That's the trip I'd go on. I've done it a couple of times and wish I did it last year.
There was one particular spring 8 day, (An actual spring trip in March, not a summer trip in July! ), where we didn't even try Alijos because of conditions. It was in a cold water year like this one, and the water was cold, green, and dirty everywhere we went. The fishing absolutely sucked rocks too. I never went that early again unless it was a 3 day freezer filler for rockfish.
Yes i have. The climate center at UCSD is projecting that the la nina will neutralize by late april. With any luck we may have yft within 2 day range before late august.
Last year's SST anomaly for this week in March:
This year's SST anomaly for this week:
Still below average of southern Baja, but a big improvement over last year...
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