Pro-Gear Albacore Special Parts

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My reel is making loud clicking noises during casting. For some reason, the noise goes away when I flip the reel upside down. I think the pinion gear is either worn down and/or the bearings are bad. I'm planning to get new bearings and pinion gear to fix the problem.

My reel doesn't have a model number machined on the housing, but it looks like its a 545 model. The parts inside are mostly the same as other 5xx models, so it shouldn't make a difference.

I think the company is no longer in business, but does anybody know where I can buy replacement parts for these reels? Are they using same parts from other manufacturers that I can swap out? The inside looks a lot like Shimano reels. If anybody can help, I appreciate it. Thanks.
 

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check the two spool bearings and see if they are rough. if so, measure them out and order up a new set from dawn at smoothdrag.com. it the bearings are ok and the reel had previously worked ok, then that means that something "changed" in the meantime. center the spool for zero load and zero freeplay and see it the noise goes away. if so, you are done. if not, loosen it up a bit. if the reel clicks and clacks when turned down to the left, it might be the click gear rubbing against the click tongue. check the clicker assembly. the click spring might have "loosened up." if the reel makes noise when it is dipped down to the right (the handle side), and if this is a new problem, then the pinion gear might be rubbing against the shoulders of the spool shaft. the eccentric jack might have been bent or worn somehow, but usually it can be "bent" back.

it may take some digging, but the answer is in there somewhere.
 

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check the two spool bearings and see if they are rough. if so, measure them out and order up a new set from dawn at smoothdrag.com. it the bearings are ok and the reel had previously worked ok, then that means that something "changed" in the meantime. center the spool for zero load and zero freeplay and see it the noise goes away. if so, you are done. if not, loosen it up a bit. if the reel clicks and clacks when turned down to the left, it might be the click gear rubbing against the click tongue. check the clicker assembly. the click spring might have "loosened up." if the reel makes noise when it is dipped down to the right (the handle side), and if this is a new problem, then the pinion gear might be rubbing against the shoulders of the spool shaft. the eccentric jack might have been bent or worn somehow, but usually it can be "bent" back.

it may take some digging, but the answer is in there somewhere.
Thanks for your advice Alan. I've been digging into it for the past day and I'm sure it has to do with the centering of the pinion gear. I can hear the same noise coming out from the pinion area when I rotate the handle in free spool. The clicking sounds very similar to a normal Peen reel with the handled turned in free spool. If I throw it into gear, the noise is gone.

I guess these Pro-Gears are notorious for mechanical problems. I've took it to one shop and the guy didn't want to touch Pro-Gears for some reason. I'll play around with it some more and see if I can get some measurements of the bearings.
 

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progears are generally reliable. look at the yoke and the eccentric jack.
 

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Which reel are we talking about?

The gunmetal reel is a 540 Albacore special. The gold reel is a 545. Two very different reels but both kick ass.
 

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Which reel are we talking about?

The gunmetal reel is a 540 Albacore special. The gold reel is a 545. Two very different reels but both kick ass.
I have the gunmetal Albacore Special reel like the one in your photo.

It was great while it worked, but now its collecting dust. I just want to fix it so I don't have to spend more money on reels. Its a sickness that has no cure for now. One day, science will invent a medication for people who buy expensive reels when they already have many expensive reels.
 

alantani

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alex, i'm a pharmacist. there is no pill for this one. the only thing i know that has "cured" anyone of this is a really bad divorce. no personal experience, just heard from others........
 

hucklongfin

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I guess these Pro-Gears are notorious for mechanical problems. I've took it to one shop and the guy didn't want to touch Pro-Gears for some reason. I'll play around with it some more and see if I can get some measurements of the bearings.
Quite the opposite. PG's are known for being rock solid. The original reels were basically Jigmasters or 4/0 inside. The Albacore Specials are easy to work on and the most solid star drag reels ever made. The classics are close to being Albacore Specials.
 

ShadowX

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alex, i'm a pharmacist. there is no pill for this one. the only thing i know that has "cured" anyone of this is a really bad divorce. no personal experience, just heard from others........
LOL. I'm not sure I want to be cured of this problem. I just need a cure for the wife's perception that its a problem.
 

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Thanks for all your help guys. I finally got it fixed. I had to open that reel over and over again until I pinpoint the cause. It turns out the yolk holding the pinion year was slightly bent. The bend is hardly noticeable, but it was enough to drop the pinion gear low enough to rub against the dowel pin on the spool's center shaft. If you position it with the handle facing the floor, the pinion gear drops down due to gravity and does not bind. But when you flip it upside down, the pinion gear falls just low enough to rub against the dowel pin as the spool rotates. That very slight rub was enough to cause the annoying sound. I think the cause was from over-torquing the bearing cap causing the yolk to bend. My bearings are a little rough and one of them looks like it had rust inside of it. The pro-gear reels are very smooth and I tend to overspool during every cast if I wasn't careful. It is still smooth enough for me to use, so I'll keep it for now.

I like the pro-gear design overall, but there are some things I don't like. The dog coil spring easily falls out during disassembly of the drag washer stack. I can't find the one inside since it flew out during my first disassembly. They should have made a wire spring that does not fall out as soon as the dog ratchet moves out of position. Other than that, they should have sealed the giant gaping hole bridge plate where the eccentric jack sits on top of. Water can easily get inside and corrode the parts.

I'm tired of taking this thing apart and reassembling it. However, I learned a lot about this reel and I'm glad its fixed. I appreciate all your help and the parts diagram found on this site was very useful. I can see all the missing parts that flew out of my reel. I'm polishing this baby up and getting it ready for the next fishing season.
 

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I know this is old, but Randy has provided me bearing ships to go in to the drive side to push the spool and bearing to the left to solve this problem as well.