YEP...that about SUMS IT UPIt called fishing and that the way the ball bounces sometimes. You don't always catch the fish. Even if you went to SCI right out the gates it still doesn't mean you would have killed it. It sucks and you feel like you were fucked trust me I know that feeling but there thousand of fisherman on this site who have experienced it , it part of the fishing some trips and days are better then others. I had 3 out of the 5 trips so far this year be boat rides for nodda and just a couple days before some of those trips it was wide open and 1 to 2 days after my bad trips it went wide open again. It sucks how far in advance we have to book trips these day. I have spent double what you guys spent on boat rides this year. You have to put the big boys pants on....
you should of just had time fun being all together for the Bachelor party,It called fishing and that the way the ball bounces sometimes. You don't always catch the fish. Even if you went to SCI right out the gates it still doesn't mean you would have killed it. It sucks and you feel like you were fucked trust me I know that feeling but there thousand of fisherman on this site who have experienced it , it part of the fishing some trips and days are better then others. I had 3 out of the 5 trips so far this year be boat rides for nodda and just a couple days before some of those trips it was wide open and 1 to 2 days after my bad trips it went wide open again. It sucks how far in advance we have to book trips these day. I have spent double what you guys spent on boat rides this year. You have to put the big boys pants on....
Well............yes you would.I went to a restaurant based on the recommendation of people on a website that I don't know. It wasn't very good. Should I still have to pay?
I was on a trip a few months ago where a boat dumped all the bait, “accidentally” 20 minutes from the zone, on an overnighter, after heading West/south west, about 4 hours. Ended up missing out on a magical night bite on big bluefin that had been producing all week.
Everyone made the decision to head back, re-bait and hopefully make it back to the grounds at grey light.
Finished the day with full crew limits of yellowtail.
shit happens man.
Would you still ask for a refund if you guys would’ve ended with limits or had a decent day?
That’s showbiz baby!
Good luck with the
The report was for their next trip, not mine. I mentioned that because obviously they went to Clemente like we should have and were rewarded. My trip was screwed because the captain didnt know how to read the naval closure and admitted he screwed up.That sucks man. Yes. We all know fishing is fishing, and all captains/boats wanna catch fish but there are many variables that can't be controlled...
But cmon...Even his crew know the captain fucked it up. You do have all the right to complain and deserve be comped.
And the worst part of all this is his dishonesty. Captains/boats that lie on their report should be held accountable.
Thanks for clarifying. I have been on a boat where they lied on the fish count before. I have also been on bad trips and got skunk several times lol. At least he admitted he f'd up. I am sure the captain wanted to get you guys on fish tho. I'd just forget about the refund and move on. GL on your next trip.The report was for their next trip, not mine. I mentioned that because obviously they went to Clemente like we should have and were rewarded. My trip was screwed because the captain didnt know how to read the naval closure and admitted he screwed up.
Okay, there's quite a bit to dissect here, much of which isn't totally accurate or is coming from an emotional posture of over-expectation and anticipation due to being "the first time I've ever been able to get all my best buddies together to fish" and it being your bachelor party. And your post here doesn't exactly match the same claims in your emails and you conveniently leave out other key details like how the other boats at SCI had moved around the island as fishing was hit n' miss there too (NOT "I think we arrived after 2pm to find the fleet had caught all the fish they could and moved out." lol), you complained about sealions, etc. but that's okay. We get it, you want everything to be perfect for your big trip.This past weekend was my bachelor party trip. I'm not going to say the charters name.. yet. I want to hear from the group what their thoughts are first. Here are the facts:
My group consisted of 10 total, all flying from the SF Bay area.
Four of us have been on multiple offshore charter trips out of SF and San Diego and have always felt we were given a good value for our money.
I posted on this group back in February asking for 1.5 day recommendations, and this one charter kept popping up because the captain had an excellent track record for putting his clients on fish.
I booked the trip back in February knowing i would get this particular captain.
My group and i show up to the boat to discover our primary captain took the weekend off, and now we have this secondary captain we've never heard of. I don't like surprises, especially for a trip i invested a lot of my time and money into.
This new captain told us there was a huge fleet off the south tip of Catalina and he didn't want to be a part of the zoo, but there was an EPIC yellowtail bite going on at the face of Clemente. He had said the Thunderbird caught over 100 there the day before. He really sold it to us that we would have lots of action and put a lot of meat on the deck. My buddies and I wanted bluefin/yellowfin, but i just wanted to have a good time with plenty of action for my group, so i agreed to head to Clemente. About an hour into our trip, the captain informs me there is a naval closure on Clemente so that plan is shot. He said he has a backup plan by going north between the islands where bluefin/yellowfin were caught a few days ago. I was really bummed but realized i didn't have much of a choice so i agreed to go searching for tuna basically by ourselves.
We arrived to the zone around 6am, and we looked for sonar marks for hours. Our bait was dying by the minute, and we were not having any bites or action. The captain said his buddy boat fishing near us has plenty of good bait and he would meet up with them to grab some. He said this multiple times because the deckhands were complaining we were running out of bait, and the bait we had was all red and near dead, but we never met with the other boat for bait.
Around 1pm, my phone starts beeping meaning i had random cell service. I checked marine traffic and saw there were a few charter boats fishing off Clemente where we had planned on going originally. I then checked the landing website and sure enough, one of the boats fishing off Clemente reported in at 9:30am they had over 30 yellowtail on board. I showed the captain and he was in disbelief. He re-checked his island closure website AND ADMITTED THAT HE READ THE INFO WRONG, AND THERE WAS NO CLOSURE THAT DAY. My buddies and i were livid. The captain made a few calls and confirmed the island was open, so we made the decision to head that way which took two solid hours. I think we arrived after 2pm to find the fleet had caught all the fish they could and moved out. Our bait was basically gone at that point. One of the deckhands hooked into a yellowtail and handed it off to my buddy who reeled it in. One other rat yellow was landed among 3 skip jack, and a few tiny rockfish. At 4pm, all of our bait was literally dead. My group of 10 was forced to switch to using irons and as i mentioned earlier, only 4 of us were experienced fisherman, so six of my buddies were scratching their heads using flat falls and knife jigs they had tied on from spending a fortune at the landing the night before. We had multiple sea lions circling the boat ever since we arrived and nothing bit when those were swimming around. At 7pm, i told the captain this isn't working, and asked that we try fishing schools of tuna that we could at least try using our $40+ knife jigs and flat falls. Captain agreed, and we headed home looking for sonar marks on the way back. We didn't stop until we arrived at the fuel barge at 3am, and then at the dock at 5:30am. As i woke up, a couple of my buddies stayed up late with the deckhands who told them the trip was bull shit, that we were screwed and should ask for a refund. The crew even said we were a really good group of clients because we weren't complaining and had positive attitudes.
I felt horrible because this was the first time I've ever been able to get all my best buddies together to fish. We all took time off work, spent over $1k each, booked flights, and hardly any of us even got a bite. I landed a 10 inch barracuda. That was it.
As i said before, I've been on multiple charters, and have been skunked my fair share, but never have i ever felt screwed like this. If this was an open charter, i wouldn't have been so upset, but this was my private bachelor party trip that i was hoping to make a yearly trip if we had a good time.
In summary, we spent over $7,000 on this 1.5 day trip. We didn't get the captain we signed up for, and our captain really sold us on fishing Yellowtail at Clemente but read the closure info wrong, and I had to inform him the island was open when i randomly got a signal more than half way through the trip.
The very next day, i see a report on the landing website saying our boat called in with 25 yellowtail and 2 bluefin for their 9 anglers on their first day.
I sent an email to the boat captain asking for a refund a couple days ago but have not heard back.
What are your thoughts? Am i right to be upset? Do i deserve a refund?