Pismo surf fishing

Pedro Flaco

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I'm putting together a surf fishing "care package" for some novice friends. Probably for barred perch. My question is: what size mono, fluorocarbon (if needed), hook size, natural baits, best grub colors and Gulp flavors.
Thanks, Pete
 

BrentlyDunivant

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I'd recommend the following for light perch tackle:

6-8# mono main
6# flouro leader
#6-#2 Mosquito Hooks - Owner - Black or Red color
Gulp Sand Worm - Camo or Bloodred
Motor Oil Grubs - With or without flake - BigHammer or Sliderz
.5- - 1oz sliding sinkers (Larger Pismo surf may require a 1oz or even 2oz, but small surf, I'd try to get a way with .5-.75)
Best small swivels to afford (nicer ones help keep sand out of them, otherwise they stop swiveling)
 
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InDeepShip

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I'm putting together a surf fishing "care package" for some novice friends. Probably for barred perch. My question is: what size mono, fluorocarbon (if needed), hook size, natural baits, best grub colors and Gulp flavors.
Thanks, Pete
I use 10lb mono and the Berkeley gulp sandworm in camp color and for grubs motor oil with some flakes in it for natural bait just dig up some sand crabs
 

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One thing to add is a plastic bead between the sinker and swivel so the sinker doesn't beat on the knot at the swivel.
 

Pedro Flaco

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Thanks friends, all good info. DeepShip, I usually fish from Manhattan Beach to San Quintin Baja. The thing I've noticed is the fish mainly seem to like the soft shell sand crabs. Have you noticed that up North?
 
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InDeepShip

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Thanks friends, all good info. DeepShip, I usually fish from Manhattan Beach to San Quintin Baja. The thing I've noticed is the fish mainly seem to like the soft shell sand crabs. Have you noticed that up North?
Yea it depends on what I'm going for. Small ones for perch large ones for sharks/rays. I make sure to hook them and then put it on wet sand and see if they can crawl into the sand and bury them selfs if they do then I find another way to hook them.
 
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FishinMcNuggets

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I'd recommend the following for light perch tackle:
6-8# mono main
6# flouro leader
#6-#2 Mosquito Hooks - Owner - Black or Red color
Gulp Sand Worm - Camo or Bloodred
Motor Oil Grubs - With or without flake - BigHammer or Sliderz
.5- - 1oz sliding sinkers (Larger Pismo surf may require a 1oz or even 2oz, but small surf, I'd try to get a way with .5-.75)
Best small swivels to afford (nicer ones help keep sand out of them, otherwise they stop swiveling)
I'd agree with this totally as light perch tackle. BUT given Pismo has a high possibility of stripers and can have much burlier surf, I'd up the ante. Plus, given central coast conditions & Newbies, I'd say long rod style would be a better application than Bill Varney style.

I would fish nothing less than 12# flouro for leaders and err towards larger mosquito hooks (thicker wire), and bigger sinkers for rigging up with a double dropper type rig. 6" camo gulp, not 2". Since the surf, current, and wind can really rip up there, I'd supply 1-4 oz torpedos.

Include a common pattern of LC FM110 or comparable Daiwa or Yozuri or Toro Tamer in case they spot some bird action in the surf. Set for perch, halibut, or stripers!

just my .02¢
 
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Pedro Flaco

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More good info. Done my share of 200lb. rays. Too old for that now. Friends too young for that. How about half a dead anchovie? Does that still work, or stick with the Gulp?
 

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for the rays its really depends on what you have honestly if you bomb anything out far enough you will get some. I love my mud marlins. I need to get back into that for winter when the weather happens.
 
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Pedro Flaco

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Yeah, different rigging. Old school Sebre 540, Penn 500 spooled with Ande 30 pound line, Mustad hook, 8 oz. bank sinker, and a chunk of squid. Good times.
 
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InDeepShip

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Jesus, i use a coffee grinder and about 2oz max of lead. I love hearing the drag pull ive been spooled acouple times due to it but honestly, i use it to get my arm ready for tuna and YT
 

Pedro Flaco

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I grew up on M.B. Pier. Gotta admit we were sacrelegious by taking the top 2 inches off the 540 to handle 8 oz. plus bait been building sticks since i was 8. never spooled though.
 
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Pedro Flaco

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I'd agree with this totally as light perch tackle. BUT given Pismo has a high possibility of stripers and can have much burlier surf, I'd up the ante. Plus, given central coast conditions & Newbies, I'd say long rod style would be a better application than Bill Varney style.

I would fish nothing less than 12# flouro for leaders and err towards larger mosquito hooks (thicker wire), and bigger sinkers for rigging up with a double dropper type rig. 6" camo gulp, not 2". Since the surf, current, and wind can really rip up there, I'd supply 1-4 oz torpedos.

Include a common pattern of LC FM110 or comparable Daiwa or Yozuri or Toro Tamer in case they spot some bird action in the surf. Set for perch, halibut, or stripers!

just my .02¢
 

Pedro Flaco

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Thanks Mike, the original question was for my friend and daughter. But next time there, Ill be packin'. I'm not real familiar with the area.
 

FishinMcNuggets

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I'd avoid chovies in favor of any cured bait. Cured mackerel strips would be ideal. Or bloodworms, sandworms, sidewinders, or sandcrabs.
 
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