Pipe jig hook location

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  1. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    That treble looks intimidating...
    plus it’s about 45 seconds less work per jig when you are making them that way.
    But I’ve never noticed any less fish with the single assist style rig. (Not any more either) Just less fish lost 1/2 way up if only one treble is stuck in and less headache getting fish off the hook at the boat if all three trebles are in. Especially fish that you want to go back just lift by pipe and they dangle down off the assist hook and are unhooked (or lifted in) easy.
     
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  2. FVSerenity

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    I’m not the old pro in this area but my limited experience with the pipe/single hook is we don’t lose many?any? Not enough to notice anyway.. but we get a hit, set, reel tight, set again good and then reel it in.
     
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    Like this!
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  4. Hannibal

    Hannibal Hold my rod?

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    Whats the rule of thumb for Diameter = Weight for 1/2 copper pipe jigs?
     
  5. Gary C

    Gary C Newbie

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    I broke a number of drill bits because the grooves filled up with lead and lost their cutting power. Drill slowly & pull out the lead byproduct from the bits.
     
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  6. Grady226

    Grady226 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Lube the bits and a cheap V-block drill jig from Harbor Freight works great!
     
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  7. Captain Decent

    Captain Decent I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    This setup averages about 1 fish per lift of the rod in Deepwater. Try to dimension it so that the hook can't hang up on either end of the pipe.

    Drilling a lead filled copper pipe is about as easy as it gets you just have to manually pull the chips out of the flutes.

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  8. Wild Bill

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    Big hooks, check
    Maybe a bit shorter than 12”, check
    Position hook in center, check
    Swivel on cotter, check
    Quality split rings, check
    Heat shrink cotter tails, check
    Pouring this weekend if I can get my boat projects done. Running boat to Neah next friday for a multi species smackdown with any luck. Thanks for all the input and see some of you jokers in Neah!
     
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  9. Nineball

    Nineball That's a keeper!

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    IMG_0642.JPG I just picked these up to get a little variety. I was told to put a large single hook on the bottom. Are there any different opinions on hook placement for Norwegians? Doesn't seem like it but I'd rather ask now than lose gear unnecessarily.

    Also, if I were to fish swiftsure can I expect to pick up lings on these jigs?

    A swiftsure hali/ling/Chinook combo day would be excellent with my crew of teenagers next weekend.

    Hopefully, I see you up there Steve and get a chance to chat!
     
  10. Cohoho

    Cohoho I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Drill the hole, shove the cotter pin with swivel on it, get a bucket of sand, shove pipe in till it covers the hole and pour away. No wasted or splattered lead during process..
     
  11. TooManyHobbies

    TooManyHobbies The guy that makes the glass stuff

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    A single siwash will do. Good luck with the lings at Swiftshure. You’d probably need to be fishing illegally in Canada to fine one there...
     
  12. Hannibal

    Hannibal Hold my rod?

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    You forgot to mention only to use wet sand, dry sand doesn't work as well...
     
  13. Deviant

    Deviant I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Holy crap!
    Been doing it totally wrong and still was catching fish…..
    WTF!
     
  14. Captain Decent

    Captain Decent I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Don't even bother if you have to run a single hook. You'll miss way too many fish. Even the stock trebles on those Norwegians are too small for reliable Hooksets if you are clanking them off the bottom.

    I don't know what happens down there but the fish cant physically inhale a piece of lead that heavy so what appears to happen is they take a shot at the jig on the bottom and get nailed on the upswing.
     
  15. T2shortB

    T2shortB Nice fanny pack Fag!!!

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    Add 4' of tuna cord with a dropper loop midway, put a 200lb swivel on the dropper loop. Snell up some long shank 12/0 J hooks with 12" of 150-200 lb mono with a perfection loop on the end. You now have a loop connection at the swivel to change out bait leaders that you can thread a big curly tail on, or bait, or better yet you can rig a whole trout/mackerel/herring/squid like a swim bait! Run the hook down it's throat and out it's dorsal fin area. I line mine up so the eye of my hook is just inside the bait's mouth and then pass a small zip tie through the eye socket, down through the eye of the hook , punch it through the lower jaw membrane and cinch it down! Bait stays on very well. And, you are welcome! 20180518_230919[1].jpg

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  16. T2shortB

    T2shortB Nice fanny pack Fag!!!

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    I use the size 11 hyper wire split rings from owner for 14/0 treble's and 9's like Steve said for the 12/0

    One other note... @Roll the Bones can testify to this one that I haven't been able to live down yet in 6 years....
    make sure your cotter pin is seated well against the pipe jig. If you have too much of a nub sticking out the swivel can bind against it and separate. The swivels are rated at a direct line pull, not for a lateral force! 1 in 1,000 chance of it happening, but it can, trust me! I hooked into a drag puller while on charlies boat back in the day and after a big head shake it went slack... dropped back down and proceeded to get bite 5 more times with out getting a hook up. Brought the gear up and only had a pipe jig with a cotter pin and the top section of my swivel!!!

    Try it out, clamp one eye of a heavy swivel into a vice and then grab on the other eye with some vise-grips...you'd be surprised how little force it takes for a failure to happen!

    I drill my holes slightly larger than most (NOW) so the throat of the cotter pin will will seat down into the pipe a little bit. Another trick is to pack wet sand around the cotter pin when pouring lead so it will not squirt out the gaps between the hole and the cotter pins!
     
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  17. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Drinking the Suzuki Kool-aid and liking it!

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    Who is this Charlie and wtf does he know? Lol. Next thing you tell me is he knows a thing or two about Tuna.
     
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  18. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Drinking the Suzuki Kool-aid and liking it!

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    Hope to see you Chris! We will chat over a cold one.
     
  19. goatram

    goatram Notable Member Gate Keeper to the Great Northwest

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    Use wax aka BOE lube to lube the drill bit. The drill press with a vice to stop the movement of the pipe. I use a 1/8" aka 30 bit to drill my pipe after I pour the lead.
     
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  20. Nookie Hooker

    Nookie Hooker Aquatic Slayer

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    If fishing Canadian waters keep in mind your jigs can’t weigh more than 2.2 lbs... I have never had the fish cops up there weigh mine, but I still make them right at the limit.
     
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