Pierpoint landing 1/2 day

Eli Miro

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Went on the half day boat out of pier point landing in Long Beach yesterday Friday 6th

It started off as a normal day I got to the boat around 9:15 am waited in line until about 9:55 am we started boarding pretty good day as far as fishing conditions so we board the boat and go on to the fishing grounds on the way there one of the deckhands begins fishing before we even reach the spot he hooks up on a nice perch so he pulls that on board and brags about it for the rest of the way to the actual spot , maybe about an hour in to the trip we stop, we were gonna begin a drift when the captain decided that he wanted to find another spot because there was another boat on our spot so we go another 30 minutes out and we finally get to the fishing grounds the captain drops anchor but he doesn't position the boat right so the swell is pretty bad right when we get to the spot all the deckhands started fishing using all these jig heads and diamond jig and immediately start hooking up on some perch , we got a couple of bites mainly the deckhands pulling up the fish but then we go to another spot mind you the fishing trip is about half way done and we've only got a few perch so the captain decided to go for sculpin and bass. This Chinese deckhand kid , the same one who hooked on to that perch, was bragging about how he had some kind of prototype reel he didn't pay for. Very annoying so then the 4 deckhands we had begin fishing and they were all hooking up on big sculpins and bass using whole squid and 4 , 5 oz jig heads casting way out while they had us using little tiny strips of squid with 6 oz weights dropping down to the bottom. The Chinese kid at one point broke his reel and was talking about how he wanted to throw it into the ocean and he threw his rod on the floor and almost hit another lady passenger while the deckhands were all fishing sculpin everyone else was hooking up on small perch and the deckhands weren't even helping untangle or unhook fish only the cook shoutout to him for being the hardest working deckhand. We fished for about an hour and a half before they called it quits when the deckhands stopped hooking up , all in all we fished for about 2.5 hours maybe 3 on a "6" hour trip and we still called it a day early. Luckily I only paid $27 for Groupon . The only highlight was the delicious perch dinner i made when I got home.
So if you're looking for a charter to go on half day boat i recommend the redondo special out of redondo beach the crew is a lot friendlier.
 

Eli Miro

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Definitely a good deal, definitely wouldn't pay full price for that experience I'd rather go out of redondo sportsfishing or Daveys Locker
 

cortezpirasea

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Do you still have to pay a dollar for the gunny sack?
 

fishboy93

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Mitch and the boys run a good operation. There's a reason they get off the dock when a lot of others don't. From what it sounds like you're pissed you didn't catch tons of fish (it's fishing not catching) and you felt it necessary to make derogatory comments towards his deckhands race, and the overall operation. And for what it's worth I doubt he had 4 deckhands and a cook on a 1/2day that's pretty far fetched. Sorry you had a bad day but maybe next time you could add a touch of class and just leave it to a fishing report instead of a unnecessary and from the looks of it unqualified boat bashing and race issue...
 

princefredo

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Sorry you had a bad trip. I usually do all my 1/2 days on the Southern Cal now. Ryan and Mitch will get you on the fish if the fish are around. I've always had a good trip. Sometimes some of the guys aren't deckhands and just friends of the boat that help out. I've also seen some of them come to fish on their day off....again sorry you had a bad trip. But from my experience this is a rare bad trip on that boat. Also I agree the cook is top notch.
 

Jigslinger

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Sorry you had a bad trip. I usually do all my 1/2 days on the Southern Cal now. Ryan and Mitch will get you on the fish if the fish are around. I've always had a good trip. Sometimes some of the guys aren't deckhands and just friends of the boat that help out. I've also seen some of them come to fish on their day off....again sorry you had a bad trip. But from my experience this is a rare bad trip on that boat. Also I agree the cook is top notch.
It didn't sound like a bad trip. Sounded more like he didn't know what to do. I just fished on the Southern Cal recently with Mitch running it. It wasn't a wfo bite but those that knew how to fish got their share of quality bass. I gave all my fish away to this young couple who was on their first ever fishing trip.

For the OP...ask for help next time. The crew or other fishermen would be more than happy to help out. That way you wouldn't be bitter and start a misinformed post as this.
 

princefredo

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It didn't sound like a bad trip. Sounded more like he didn't know what to do. I just fished on the Southern Cal recently with Mitch running it. It wasn't a wfo bite but those that knew how to fish got their share of quality bass. I gave all my fish away to this young couple who was on their first ever fishing trip.

For the OP...ask for help next time. The crew or other fishermen would be more than happy to help out. That way you wouldn't be bitter and start a misinformed post as this.
You are correct. I didn't mean a bad trip all together. Just sorry he didn't enjoy his. It's rare anybody has one on that boat. Hope to be there on Monday.
 

Azarkon

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Both sides have valid arguments. People seem to assume that he's complaining because he didn't catch fish, but his main complaints are about the behavior of the deck hands, who according to him were too busy fishing to help paying customers. Personally I have heard similar complaints from friends who have done this boat so I'm not surprised. Nobody should approve of deck hands dropping lines even before the customers have had a chance to. You might tolerate it from a boat that's running $27 trips, but only because that's the kind of service you'd expect from a cheap operation.
 

BrentH

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I have fished on with them before, had a very similar experience. Deck hand was helping another deck hand (possible friend of boat) with his fish while not helping paying customers. I read the reviews online and still gave them a try, won't do that again! Also they do tend to exaggerate the fish count.
All that said the capt did put us on fish at multiple stops. I came back with fish so it wasn't a terrrible trip. He knows how to find fish but the deck hands left something to be desired.
 

FloMar

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Both sides have valid arguments. People seem to assume that he's complaining because he didn't catch fish, but his main complaints are about the behavior of the deck hands, who according to him were too busy fishing to help paying customers. Personally I have heard similar complaints from friends who have done this boat so I'm not surprised. Nobody should approve of deck hands dropping lines even before the customers have had a chance to. You might tolerate it from a boat that's running $27 trips, but only because that's the kind of service you'd expect from a cheap operation.
Can't argue that, well stated.
 
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rexor_rn

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Chinese deckhand kid started fishing and caught perch before arriving the spot??? Was the Chinese deckhand Trolling for perch then???

Its so Funny & Full of Baloney.....First He is Kevin a Cambodian NOT a Chinese. (The Helpful Middle Age Guy in the Galley, Errol is the Chinese!). No matter what your perception on the Deckhand, his ethnicity is irrelevant unless you have some issue with the Chinese.

I can understand your Frustration for Not Catching the Ideal Fish you Want....but its Fishing! You could have just Followed what They did or How they Fish, rather than Whinning.

Southern Cal have been my Go To 1/2 Day Party Boat when I Started Fishing Most of the Weekends from June to December last year, so I know these guys and observed how they behave & interact with Paying Customers with No Issues.......Yes they Do Cast there Rig from Time to Time BUT Only After the Boat has Stop & Settled Down & Everybody are Fishing YET They are Quick to Assist if you Called Them or They Happen to See you Need some Assistance.
 
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Eli Miro

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Both sides have valid arguments. People seem to assume that he's complaining because he didn't catch fish, but his main complaints are about the behavior of the deck hands, who according to him were too busy fishing to help paying customers. Personally I have heard similar complaints from friends who have done this boat so I'm not surprised. Nobody should approve of deck hands dropping lines even before the customers have had a chance to. You might tolerate it from a boat that's running $27 trips, but only because that's the kind of service you'd expect from a cheap operation.

My point exactly. Ive gotten skunked and still
Had better days fishing. it's not about catching fish I caught a decent days worth of fish my point being that deckhands should act like they actually are there to do there job and not just fish , I had no problem with the quantity or quality of fish I caught I just don't believe it's fair to the paying customers when there's constant tangles and the deckhands are too busy fishing to do their job.
 
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Eli Miro

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Chinese deckhand kid started fishing and caught perch before arriving the spot??? Was the Chinese deckhand Trolling for perch then???

Its so Funny & Full of Baloney.....First He is Kevin a Cambodian NOT a Chinese. (The Helpful Middle Age Guy in the Galley, Errol is the Chinese!). No matter what your perception on the Deckhand, his ethnicity is irrelevant unless you have some issue with the Chinese.

I can understand your Frustration for Not Catching the Ideal Fish you Want....but its Fishing! You could have just Followed what They did or How they Fish, rather than Whinning.

Southern Cal have been my Go To 1/2 Day Party Boat when I Started Fishing Most of the Weekends from June to December last year, so I know these guys and observed how they behave & interact with Paying Customers with No Issues.......Yes they Do Cast there Rig from Time to Time BUT Only After the Boat has Stop & Settled Down & Everybody are Fishing YET They are Quick to Assist if you Called Them or They Happen to See you Need some Assistance.

You must fish there a lot I hear regulars get special treatment, second of all I have no problems with Chinese I love all races. I don't care about race really... it's 2017 lol. I just hate people who think they are so much Better than everyone else because of their gear . And lastly how can I follow how they fish when I don't have none of the gear they had, they recommend tackle to the customers but they were using something completely different than what they told us to use so I didn't have the option to fish how they did. I mean I'm just here to let people know about my experience it doesn't mean everyone's gonna have the same experience.
 

Eli Miro

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I have fished on with them before, had a very similar experience. Deck hand was helping another deck hand (possible friend of boat) with his fish while not helping paying customers. I read the reviews online and still gave them a try, won't do that again! Also they do tend to exaggerate the fish count.
All that said the capt did put us on fish at multiple stops. I came back with fish so it wasn't a terrrible trip. He knows how to find fish but the deck hands left something to be desired.
I've also read similar reviews on yelp , and I have no problem with the captain or his operation. I just don't find it professional for him to let his crew put their own fun and enjoyment over those of the customers. Like you said I came back with fish so it's not all bad but the point is they could use some work on their customer service.
 

Eli Miro

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Mitch and the boys run a good operation. There's a reason they get off the dock when a lot of others don't. From what it sounds like you're pissed you didn't catch tons of fish (it's fishing not catching) and you felt it necessary to make derogatory comments towards his deckhands race, and the overall operation. And for what it's worth I doubt he had 4 deckhands and a cook on a 1/2day that's pretty far fetched. Sorry you had a bad day but maybe next time you could add a touch of class and just leave it to a fishing report instead of a unnecessary and from the looks of it unqualified boat bashing and race issue...
First of all I've read most the reviews and I seen a lot of reviews similar to mine , maybe you should read a little more carefully instead of assuming , I never said I didn't catch enough fish I could care less about the quantity of fish I caught. 2nd I never made any derogatory comments, I just stated someone's race , I didn't say anything bad about Chinese... and yes they had 4 deckhands and a cook I seen them with my own eyes so I don't know how far fetched that is?