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  1. ninjastar

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    So I was wondering what do you guys think.

    12VISX-Calstar 775XH
    16ViSX-Calstar 775XXH
    20VISX-Calstar 770-XXH
    30VISX- Calstar 7470XXXH

    Does rod size really matter if it is a rail rod? Would it be worth looking at the 8ft unlimited rods or would this setup be perfect as is??
     
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    You didn’t really say what each outfit was for but I’ll take a shot at it.

    12VISX My choices would be either the 7400xh, 875xxh or 800xxh here. Since this reel isn’t really great for yo-yo I’d be leaning to the 800xxh and shorter 60# flouro leader loaded with 80# solid. I’d prefer the lighter built rods rather than a full rail rod here, I’m thinking Lupe.

    16VISX I have this one on a 775xxh for fishing either heavy #80 or finesse #100 and it works very well. Great flat fall setup for bluefin and tough enough to handle cow Yellowfin on the flyline.

    20VISX I would use the 775xxxh here. Dedicated #100 flyline setup that easily jumps to #130. I also think the 775 series is overall more stout than the 770 series you had chosen here.

    50VISX (you chose the 30). this one would be 775xxxxh, 7470xxxxh, or 770xxxxh. Big baits, big jig, or the kite is this rigs uses to me. 50 gives the capacity needed for kite use and the reason for that change.

    Happy shopping!!
     
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    So what is the main difference from the 7470xxxh and the 7700xxxh??
     
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    There isn’t a 7700xxxh so I assume you meant 770xxxh. The added number 4 in any Calstar build means it is a faster actioned model of the rod it shares a name with.

    I.E. 7470 is faster than a 770
    7400 is faster than a 700
    7465 is faster than a 765
     
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    So it would be best to match the line rating on the reel to a rod that matches it rather than a let's say a VISX 16 with a 775xxxh that would give it that pull power vs let's say matching it with a 775xh like you stated??
     
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    My personal preference has always been to have some give in my system, and since I use short topshots, I prefer a rod that is both longer and has good flex without bottoming out. Hope that makes sense.
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    James,

    You are in Carson, head down to Island tackle and pull on those rods you mentioned. I'm sure you will learn a lot more in 20 minutes then than 100 posts on here. They likely have all those rods there and also have other similar ones from other manufacturers.
     
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    I'm thinking UC 76 railrods... Raptor for the 12, Centaur for the 16, Viper for the 20, Invictus.for the 30 or 50.
     
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    I really have to agree here. What works for my style and body frame might not be the best for you (or even someone with my similar frame). Find the most knowledgeable guy in the store, be specific about your intent for each outfit (line class, topshot length, targeted species, fishing destinations), and pull on some. It will become clearer.
     
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    Heres what I came with and wanted to see what you think.

    TRANX 400—PSW-868MH--15-40LB-à20LB LIVE BAIT

    TRANX 500—HAX-909—30-80LBà 50LB SURFACE IRON/WAHOO BOMB,JIGS

    SLAMMER 3 7500—MPX-S800H—30-100LBà 50LB POPPER

    FATHOM 25—HAX-820H—25-60LBà 30LB LIVE BAIT

    FATHOM 30—HAX-820H—25-60LBà 40LB LIVE BAIT

    *1-FATHOM 40—HAX-780X2H—40-100LBà 100LB HEAVY YOYO (PL68,TADY 14, ECT)

    *1-FATHOM 60—HAX-780X2H—40-100LBà DROPPER LOOP

    VISX 12—GFGR-775XH—60-100LBà 60LB LIVE BAIT

    VISX 16—GFGR-775XXH—80-130LBà FLATFALL

    VISX 20—GFGR-775X4H—UNLIMITEDà80LB LIVE BAIT

    VISX 30—GFGR-770XXXH--80-UNLIMTEDà 100LB LIVE BAIT

    VISX 50—GFGR-7470XXXH—80-UNLIMTED à 130LB BIG BAIT SETUP/KITE

    SLAMMER 3 7500—MPX-S800H—30-100LBà 50LB POPPER

    *2-AVET EXW30/3—HAX-780X2H—40-100LBà 100LB HEAVY YOYO(PL68,TADY 14, ECT)

    *2-AVET EX50/3—HAX-780X2H—40-100LBà DROPPER LOOP

    **EITHER 1 OR 2**

    I also have a couple question.

    1-Is their such a thing as heavy yoyo setup and would 100lb mono be okay to even 150lb as a short top shot as a bite leader or 50lb is okay with all yoyo from light to heavy jigs?

    2-I know people say set lever drags at 25-30% of the line raiting but when I do that it feels like its way to much from the inital setting to the strike.
    -Like my visx 20 is set as followed
    -full at 39lbs drag
    -At the 3rd tick mark I set the strike and its set at 25lbs of drag
    -At the 1st tick mark I use the other strike and its set at 16lbs of drag
     
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    DannyNoonan Smarter than I look...

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    James - go talk to Sam. You know where he’s at...

    Are you on our 11 day this November?
     
  12. ninjastar

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    Hahahaha I dropped by yesterday thinking I didn't have time till my trip next week. I was just telling him to that these forums get me and that it just makes me want to try different techniques, especially with the rigging of multiple hooks on a flat fall.

    Ya I got on his trip.

    I love going to his store but don't want to be a nucicense since his store is only a few min awsy. Plus his store is like a candy store to me the longer I stay their the more I buy especially when I think "I don't have that yet".
     
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    Trust me James, if you are buying stuff every time you roll in, you aren’t bothering anyone. Your business is exactly what these shops thrive on and why they are there in the first place.
     
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