Penn Slammer 3 Review

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    According to tackle advisors he actually said the new Saragosas may be watered down. This might be because Shimano is loosing a lot of money for the twin powers because of the Saragosas. It's not guaranteed but it sounds about right..

    Also according to him, the new Saragosa feels like nothing else. Incredible. Smooth action, easy to turn handle, and the transition of the oscillation parts is virtually impossible to detect.

    Frankly, I think Shimano stepped up the game for all involved. Also, it's likely they're selling enough Twin Power and aren't losing crap by not selling more of them. As a strategy, it's not uncommon to have a sacrificial lamb (or product, so to speak). It's the product that's makes your high-volume unit look like a great deal to the consumer. But just like everyone else, I'm waiting to see what the verdict is.
     
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    Also according to him, the new Saragosa feels like nothing else. Incredible. Smooth action, easy to turn handle, and the transition of the oscillation parts is virtually impossible to detect.

    Frankly, I think Shimano stepped up the game for all involved. Also, it's likely they're selling enough Twin Power and aren't losing crap by not selling more of them. As a strategy, it's not uncommon to have a sacrificial lamb (or product, so to speak). It's the product that's makes your high-volume unit look like a great deal to the consumer. But just like everyone else, I'm waiting to see what the verdict is.
    True. Let's hope so.
     
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    Pitchinwedge

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    Yup... "trimmed up the fat, and made a more friendly, and happy warm and fuzzy user experience"...


    A bit of evolution and not revolutionary. But like I said before, IF I were buying again today, this is probably the one.
     
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    HS" increases ratio...but it also has more spool diameter!.

    I never understood the point of getting a spheros or gosa 8k as it is literally a 10k with less line capacity. I didn't keep mine because certain plastic pieces broke and I wasn't in the mood for fighting to find the right parts from Shimano.
    The gears of the Slammer 6500HS should fit in a standard slammer, but Tunanorth will be able to give you a concrete answer.
    Here you are talking about different things, you compare pears with apples!: gosa 8k has fast ratio (with 10k spool spheros&gosa produces 45.7")....this is as if you say you don't understand why choose the new sw-A 18000 hg if there is 25k....o_O
    Narrower spool (as lower ratio and longer handle) makes it slower but produces more TORQUE (bg6500 vs 8k, stella/makaira 20k vs30k...).

    I used a daiwa black and gold 8000. Wished I had bought the smaller version for popping.
    of course it's 30oz!...you mean the 6500 with the smaller spool or the 5k?
     
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    HS" increases ratio...but it also has more spool diameter!.


    Here you are talking about different things, you compare pears with apples!: gosa 8k has fast ratio (with 10k spool spheros&gosa produces 45.7")....this is as if you say you don't understand why choose the new sw-A 18000 hg if there is 25k....o_O
    Narrower spool (as lower ratio and longer handle) makes it slower but produces more TORQUE (bg6500 vs 8k, stella/makaira 20k vs30k...).


    of course it's 30oz!...you mean the 6500 with the smaller spool or the 5k?

    I never experianced torque issues with my 10k.

    What you are telling me though is that Shimano was to cheap to make a reel with a proper low gear ratio so they slapped a tiny spool onto a 10k sized reel?

    What aholes of them to force their customers to sacrifice line capacity to get a lower gear ratio on a reel that looks extra derpy with the tiny spool inside the large bulky rotor.

    Penn made a proper low and high gear ratio for both their 6500 and 8500 Slammers.
     
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    I never experianced torque issues with my 10k.

    What you are telling me though is that Shimano was to cheap to make a reel with a proper low gear ratio so they slapped a tiny spool onto a 10k sized reel?

    What aholes of them to force their customers to sacrifice line capacity to get a lower gear ration
    The 8k has faster gears than the 10k and even with the smaller spool retrieves 2" more per crank.

    Buy both an 8k and 10k then swap the spools. The 8k with the 10k spool will be even faster and the 10k with the 8k spool will be even slower.
     
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    The 8k has faster gears than the 10k and even with the smaller spool retrieves 2" more per crank.

    Buy both an 8k and 10k then swap the spools. The 8k with the 10k spool will be even faster and the 10k with the 8k spool will be even slower.

    So, my point still stands that Shimano was to cheap to build a high speed 10k.

    What aholes that they make you buy two different reels and extra spools just to get a high speed 10k or is it an 8k with greater line capacity?

    It would make more sense to just get the 8k gearing and stick it in a 10k.
     
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    I have a TwinPower 14k. It's only a little bigger than the 10k but gets 53" per crank... for twice the price! The 2020 Saragosa line now includes a 14k and an 18k with faster gears.
     
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    So, my point still stands that Shimano was to cheap to build a high speed 10k.

    What aholes that they make you buy two different reels and extra spools just to get a high speed 10k or is it an 8k with greater line capacity?

    It would make more sense to just get the 8k gearing and stick it in a 10k.
    Exactly...
     
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    The 8k has faster gears than the 10k and even with the smaller spool retrieves 2" more per crank.

    Buy both an 8k and 10k then swap the spools. The 8k with the 10k spool will be even faster and the 10k with the 8k spool will be even slower.
    Or buy 2 Slammers, HS and Regular and just fish them the way they are LOL..
     
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    I have a TwinPower 14k. It's only a little bigger than the 10k but gets 53" per crank... for twice the price! The 2020 Saragosa line now includes a 14k and an 18k with faster gears.

    Ahhhhhh... Yes! The price we must pay to get shafted by Shimano.

    It must feel good because we just can not get enough and we run back for more of the same crap.
     
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    Ahhhhhh... Yes! The price we must pay to get shafted by Shimano.

    It must feel good because we just can not get enough and we run back for more of the same crap.
    When you can litteraly get a slammer, pick the gear ratio and Get a better quality reel. Not even the twin powers is equal to the slammer when it comes to construction. I believe the slammer Is just under the Stella/Saltiga, definitely above the Saragosa.
     
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    I used a daiwa black and gold 8000. Wished I had bought the smaller version for popping.
    Might wanna consider the new Penn Battle 3. I'm not affiliated with Penn but they really did some wonders to this reel at the $100-$150 price range. I consider it a Unsealed Spinfisher. Funny because even the Battles have a better build than the Saragosas, the battle is completely built of aluminum.
     
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