Penn Fathom 40 gen 2

bigreddog

Get off of my lawn
Jul 18, 2005
525
674
Wallace, Idaho and Antigua Guatemala
Name
Cliff
Boat Name
I always go back to the Royal Star
I received my Penn Fathom 40 second generation 2 speed today and went to work on it. I opened it up, removed the spool bearing shields, cleaned and lubed them with TSI. The reel was very clean inside, not too much grease. After spooling it with spectra I was not happy with the free spool, so I opened it again and removed a single very thick machinist shim that was under the right side spool bearing. Then it had absolutely excellent free spool-rivaling any reel that I own. I got lucky on this one!

Drag numbers are 10 at strike, 29 at full. The drag lever has a much smoother function than the gen 1’s.

Some quick notes on the obvious differences: there is no left side plate (it is integrated into the frame). It is noticeably lighter than the gen 1 and the reel measured from the center of the spool to the handle is a lot narrower. These changes make the reel feel smaller than a gen 1, but because of the lower low gear ratio it should be a much more powerful reel. The drag lever and cam are plastic, but they did something that makes consistent reassembly easy: The cam can only go in one way. There are some differences inside that make it easier to assemble but are minor updates- at least to me.

There is some obvious handle resistance, more than a gen 1. Resistance is felt with the reel disassembled and is not related to side loading of bearings. I will be trying it out soon for wahoo and as a yoyo reel and will report back.

After looking at it and comparing it to my Talica 20, gen 1 Fathom 40, and Makaira 15T I think it might replace the Makaira. It is much lighter, way cheaper, has better capacity, and is a multi-function reel that is very easy to service.

EDIT: I used it for some wahoo fishing and it did ok. I caught a 40# plus wahoo on the bomb in less than 20 seconds-it never got its head turned. I will continue to use it for wahoo, but with bombs only. Larger lures make the handle too hard to turn. The same issue makes it unattractive to me as a yo-yo reel. The reel finish is substandard and will not hold up for long. I like it better than a gen1, but it has some limitations. I think I will use it for BFT/Guadalupe as a bait reel for 50-60#, and as a multi purpose reel that can fish wahoo, occasional yo-yo and knife jigs.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

tunanorth

I Post A Lot But I Can't Edit This
Dec 4, 2005
7,510
7,284
By the lake
Name
Tunanorth
Boat Name
Bass Tracker 16
I received my Penn Fathom 40 second generation 2 speed today and went to work on it. I opened it up, removed the spool bearing shields, cleaned and lubed them with TSI. The reel was very clean inside, not too much grease. After spooling it with spectra I was not too happy with the free spool, so I opened it again and removed a single very thick machinist shim that was under the right side spool bearing. Then it had absolutely excellent free spool-rivaling any reel that I own. I got lucky on this one!

Drag numbers are 10 at strike, 29 at full. The drag lever has a much smoother function than the gen 1’s.

Some quick notes on the obvious differences: there is no left side plate (it is integrated into the frame). It is noticeably lighter than the gen 1 and the reel measured from the center of the spool to the handle is a lot narrower. These changes make the reel feel smaller than a gen 1, but because of the lower low gear ratio it should be a much more powerful reel. Additionally, there is no drag cam, it is integrated into the drag lever as a single piece. The drag lever and cam are plastic I think, which I am not too sure about-we will see how they hold up. I wonder how Cal will blueprint these? There are some differences inside that make it easier to assemble but are minor updates- at least to me.

There is some obvious handle resistance, more than a gen 1. Resistance is felt with the reel disassembled and is not related to side load. I will be trying it out soon for wahoo and as a yoyo reel and will report back.

After looking at it and comparing it to my Talica 20, gen 1 Fathom 40, and Makaira 15T I think it might replace the Makaira. It is much lighter, way cheaper, has better capacity, and is a multi-function reel that is very easy to service.



One other consideration, when the budget allows premium reels, be sure to take a look at the Torque series.
Its a testimony to how well-designed the Fathoms are that they are regularly compared to other reels that are double [or more] in price.
The Fathoms are designed to be the best possible reel "for the price".
The Torques are designed to be the best possible reel.
 
Upvote 0

tony38

Member
Mar 30, 2014
552
207
Name
tony
Boat Name
none yet
One other consideration, when the budget allows premium reels, be sure to take a look at the Torque series.
Its a testimony to how well-designed the Fathoms are that they are regularly compared to other reels that are double [or more] in price.
The Fathoms are designed to be the best possible reel "for the price".
The Torques are designed to be the best possible reel.
would Penn be updating, the torques with the new handle from the fathoms, and how about a gear update to the torque 40 with the fathom40 gears?
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: FlatPack
Upvote 0

Jurel Hunter

We need to talk about your fishing reports.
  • Mar 11, 2007
    1,002
    639
    Mira Mesa
    Name
    Jim
    Boat Name
    FV Soldandgone
    old is 5.1 in high and 2.5 in low
    new is 6.0 high and 1.9 in low
    yeah, esp w/ the torque 40nld2 i'd have at a higher drag n prefer the lower gear.

    i actually prefer the football style handle on gen1 fthm 40ld2 reel vs the available aftermarket t-bar replacement. I feel like i can crank faster/easier for vertical jigging and retrieving line, and really don't get much cranking power benefit of the t-bar replacement. haven't tried out the penn 2nd gen fathom handle for 40nld2 yet, but i tried out their bigger jig style handle on 2nd gen 25nld2, and it was very nice - bigger and better fit in hand than t-bar replacement. but, i still prefer football style handle on lighter/smaller reels. nice that we can easily swap out for preference.
     
    Upvote 0

    BS1965

    Newbie
    May 16, 2021
    1
    0
    57
    California
    Name
    brad
    Boat Name
    na
    nice review i was about to go with the HS ( going on first LR next year) but find this reel more versatile. Now my gen 1 40n2spd needs a new home
     
    Upvote 0

    p-nut

    Almost A Member
    May 6, 2005
    221
    33
    48
    venice, ca
    Name
    Pete
    Boat Name
    none
    Any observations with the strength of the gen 2 handle? I heard that there might be more flex in them because the added cutouts over the gen 1.
     
    Upvote 0

    FlatPack

    Online Angler
    Sep 22, 2016
    2,946
    2,386
    City of Angels
    Name
    Rexor
    Boat Name
    Cavalla-Fathom-SpeedMaster: All Catches Fish!
    would Penn be updating, the torques with the new handle from the fathoms, and how about a gear update to the torque 40 with the fathom40 gears?
    Hopefully ICAST 2023???
    Cross our finger if it ever happen, possibly it will be the best reel ever made😉
     
    Upvote 0

    tony38

    Member
    Mar 30, 2014
    552
    207
    Name
    tony
    Boat Name
    none yet
    I received my Penn Fathom 40 second generation 2 speed today and went to work on it. I opened it up, removed the spool bearing shields, cleaned and lubed them with TSI. The reel was very clean inside, not too much grease. After spooling it with spectra I was not happy with the free spool, so I opened it again and removed a single very thick machinist shim that was under the right side spool bearing. Then it had absolutely excellent free spool-rivaling any reel that I own. I got lucky on this one!

    Drag numbers are 10 at strike, 29 at full. The drag lever has a much smoother function than the gen 1’s.

    Some quick notes on the obvious differences: there is no left side plate (it is integrated into the frame). It is noticeably lighter than the gen 1 and the reel measured from the center of the spool to the handle is a lot narrower. These changes make the reel feel smaller than a gen 1, but because of the lower low gear ratio it should be a much more powerful reel. The drag lever and cam are plastic, but they did something that makes consistent reassembly easy: The cam can only go in one way. There are some differences inside that make it easier to assemble but are minor updates- at least to me.

    There is some obvious handle resistance, more than a gen 1. Resistance is felt with the reel disassembled and is not related to side loading of bearings. I will be trying it out soon for wahoo and as a yoyo reel and will report back.

    After looking at it and comparing it to my Talica 20, gen 1 Fathom 40, and Makaira 15T I think it might replace the Makaira. It is much lighter, way cheaper, has better capacity, and is a multi-function reel that is very easy to service.

    EDIT: I used it for some wahoo fishing and it did ok. I caught a 40# plus wahoo on the bomb in less than 20 seconds-it never got its head turned. I will continue to use it for wahoo, but with bombs only. Larger lures make the handle too hard to turn. The same issue makes it unattractive to me as a yo-yo reel. The reel finish is substandard and will not hold up for long. I like it better than a gen1, but it has some limitations. I think I will use it for BFT/Guadalupe as a bait reel for 50-60#, and as a multi purpose reel that can fish wahoo, occasional yo-yo and knife jigs.
    10lbs at strike what line are you planing to fish it with, my 40n 2 spd gen 1 has 18lbs at strike with nice free spool , maybe try heavier lb at strike and see what results you got
     
    Upvote 0

    bigreddog

    Get off of my lawn
    Jul 18, 2005
    525
    674
    Wallace, Idaho and Antigua Guatemala
    Name
    Cliff
    Boat Name
    I always go back to the Royal Star
    10lbs at strike what line are you planing to fish it with, my 40n 2 spd gen 1 has 18lbs at strike with nice free spool , maybe try heavier lb at strike and see what results you got
    Instead of setting my drag at the strike setting, I set it at the maximum drag setting. I set it to give me 50% of the rated breaking strength of the line, at full drag.

    In this example using 60# test I set my reel at a maximum drag of 30#. 80# test and above the maximum drag setting stays at 40#.

    I do this because drag curves can vary substantially from reel to reel, even between identical models.

    Some additional information about how I make these reels work better:

     
    Last edited:
    Upvote 0

    jonrx7

    I like girls, boos and fishing. Simple life.
  • Apr 21, 2008
    394
    191
    Garden Grove
    Name
    Jon
    Boat Name
    Not yet

    This is one solution to the flimsy handle
     
    Upvote 0