Parker 2820 vs Osprey 28/30

Discussion in 'Washington Fishing Reports' started by Captain Decent, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. Captain Decent

    Captain Decent I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    ....go on...

    What seems to be the issue with these? I assume the duo prop out drive? I've researched these and they do appear to be more hassle than a 4s outboard.

    Not many OB powered ospreys tho. But sure don't want to deal with breakdowns as I've been very fortunate to never suffer a breakdown with an OB on the back.
     
  2. Chtucker

    Chtucker Lowe boat denter

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    Ask Steve aka Wild Bill. Drives are $10-13k new, $7-8k rebuilt. Seldom do the go more than 500 hours with going boom. Engine's are expensive to work on and getting older/harder to find mechanics/parts.

    I have said this in the past. I would rather lick an the end of an extension cord while standing in the tub than have an outdrive.
     
  3. wdlfbio

    wdlfbio Once you go Cat, you never go back

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    Damn Howard. Don’t hold back. :)
     
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  4. South Sounder

    South Sounder Skipper

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    Howard sounded like Tex in a 3am post.
     
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  5. Walker Inc.

    Walker Inc. I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I could not agree with Howard more. Ryan details coming later. Just got home from work and cooking dinner
     
  6. xtshawytscha

    xtshawytscha Well-Known "Member"

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    Ryan you're in a great spot. Your boat sold (hopefully) and you have all winter to find the right boat. Be patient and you'll find the right boat. You'll know it when you see it.

    If you're looking for pilothouse boats, I wouldn't rule out brands like Steigercraft, Judge and Farallon, along with the ones you're considering. At least do your research on those brands as I found them to all have loyal followings when we were searching for a smaller pilothouse.
     
  7. Chtucker

    Chtucker Lowe boat denter

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    Who me??? It only hurts once they said. licking.jpg
     
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  8. Swede

    Swede Yachtless

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    Don't buy an I/O boat. We don't want to hear you bitching about it until the day you sell it. LOL
     
  9. PaDDy Killer'

    PaDDy Killer' Well-Known "Member"

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    Run from an inboard outdrive! My Dad's old 28' skipjack was a constant issue with twin diesel Volvo's and 280 drives. Run, Run, Run!!! Go outboard or direct drive. Outboard was designed for one use...Push a boat through water. Having delt with both all my life I feel confident saying you will have less issues with a outboard.
     
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  10. FVSerenity

    FVSerenity Captain

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    I suggest going and looking at everything out there, don’t discount a manufacturer until you have had a chance to walk around the boat and look at it. I never would have bought a trophy, until I reluctantly walked mine down, thought it was a waste of my time, after starting to crawl around it’s innerds and inspecting everything I was like whoa, this is a dam good boat. I used to laugh at trophy owners, now I am one, had it for a few years now and dam happy with it.
     
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  11. Captain Decent

    Captain Decent I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Duly noted: No I/Os
     
  12. FVSerenity

    FVSerenity Captain

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    Or don’t ask don’t tell:) ha ha

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  13. TexMojoII

    TexMojoII Well, Shit!

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    How about a 4am response! LOL
     
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  14. TwoTapPat

    TwoTapPat Oh ya that's jazzy

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    Slap a pair of Cummins in front of those and now where talking.
     
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  15. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Drinking the Suzuki Kool-aid and liking it!

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    My distaste for VP stems from their willingness to use the consumer as the R&D guinea pigs when they released the original DPH drives for the D series diesels. When run over about 2950 rpm on longer runs, the inadequate top gearset started to build heat exacerbated by too small of oil passages. This resulted in many premature drive failures. VP’s response was to come up with a modified version with bigger top gearset and improved oiling passages. This helped keep the top gearset cooler when on plane. They made no concessions to those of us with the obviously inferior designed original dph drive, when a recall would have been appropriate. They just said it was an upgrade and a natural progression. The cost of this new drive at the time my drive failed was around $13,000. VP’s price structure for parts is also in the stratosphere. In the end I realized I could not afford to run the boat and sold it. I think with good maintenance and the new and improved drive the reliability is ok at this point but the cost of ownership is still very high on the D series diesels with dph drives. The only way I can see to make up for this is if you are in it for the long run and get 6000 hrs plus out of the motor. The superior fuel economy of the package over this span would then offset the higher maintenance costs vs outboards. Not many of us keep boats that long. I am a big fan of diesel power in boats 30’ and larger but only with straight shafts which are all but bulletproof. I am also intrigued by Suzuki’s new duo prop outboard for the possible efficiency gains, but only time will tell if they will hold up.
     
  16. Chasin' Tail

    Chasin' Tail ~Jumpers!!~ <*)))><

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    Oh, come on! It only took him 3 Grady's to finally realize a pilothouse was the way to go! LOL. He'll probably go glass a couple more times before finally coming to his senses and getting a Tin Can!..

    on a side note, theres an Osprey on CL with a fresh re-power to Twin Zukes that seems like a decent deal @ $75k, as long as the stringers aren't waterlogged
     
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  17. Deviant

    Deviant I've posted enough I should edit this section

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  18. Captain Decent

    Captain Decent I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Can't afford aluminium with the tariffs and all.

    I've called on that osprey. Might take a look but I'm not getting too excited as its an outboard conversion and I question if it was done properly but only one way to find out.
     
  19. Deviant

    Deviant I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Yanmar's are good motors and 4100 is not much as long as they are taken care of. You can get 8K or more out of them if not thrashed on.
    Twins on that boat is not a lot of stress compared to a single.

    As far as high revving, all of the motors are by design to do that for that class. Cummins, Yanmar, Peninsular (run away...), etc...
     
  20. Odin7

    Odin7 Odin7

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    Is there anyone who likes I/Os? I've never owned one so I can't speak to their efficacy but surely there are some up sides to them?

    Or do they just have Don Draper doing their marketing?
     
  21. Deviant

    Deviant I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    As long as they are under warranty as well as in the off season when they develop issues there is no problem.
     
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