Pacific Queen - 1.5 Day - YFT, Skipjack + 1 Bigeye

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  1. BiggestT

    BiggestT I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Looks notched to me.....

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    And the indicator for the pectoral on a Bigeye is that it extends BEYOND the second dorsal fin base. Though the pics on this are not great, that's not the case here. The real telltale are the markings, notched tale and the slender body. It's just a YFT with longer pectoral fins than its brothers and sisters in the pile of fish.
     
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  2. Hardcor

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    You might be right T but I was thinking of a v cut right in the middle. Little fish are hard to call. The Yellowfin finlets are yellow and bigeye finlets are yellow with a black tip


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  3. SouthBayKiller

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    Yeah that's not a bigeye, just a YFT with a longer than normal pectoral fin. The notch is the big giveaway. The colors aren't right either. If you read through the ID link you'll notice all this yourself.
     
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    See page 7 on swim bladder. Bigeye are neutrally buoyant at the surface. So if you have difficulty with the ID based on features, just drop the fish overboard at the dock (or in the bait tank if you're afraid). A YFT will sink, but a Bigeye will float or stay near the surface.
     
  6. plj46

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    Just my meaningless opinion,that's not a Bigeye.
     
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    AWESOME REPORT!!! wtg on the big eye!
     
  8. ZZZZZ

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    Cool. A mini bet. The fish has not filled out yet or dropped its balls being a young juvenile. The bet psychedelic rear coloring comes later in life.

    Or its a deformed yft

    Jmho :)
     
  9. soopaflyjm1

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    Its definitely not a big eye, its a hybrid albacore silver fin tuner.
     
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    Yep. Crossed with a Yellowmegafin.

    Liger of the sea. Very rare. A few escaped the ocean lab
     
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    Shortfin Albacore
     
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    I'm aware of the
    To corroborate what Hardcor said, I'll follow up with pics this evening. I was aware of the v-notch marker
    I'm aware of the "v notch" characteristic and that paper on distinguishing BE from YFT. So, I did take a picture of the alleged Bigeye's tail. Didn't bother originally posting it since I though the pectoral was enough of a give-away on ID. By the way, the pectoral was tapered, whispy / pointed at its end and definitely longer and less broad than any of the other YFT of similar size. In any event, we'll all have to agree that this is either...

    (1) a YFT with abnormally long and thin pectorals and a larger than usual eye or...

    (2) a bigeye

    Pictures of a YFT tail zoomed in and that of the "bigeye". The "bigeye" has a less pronounced "v" in it's tail. Again, didn't bother posting this pic initially since the pec seemed to make the case.

    I'm going with bigeye....one deckhand and Drew Card gave me that ID and they've caught more fish than me. Drew mentioned he's seen one before, similar size (can't remember how long ago he said it was though) that was schooling with similar sized YFT.

    You should be able to right click / save as to get full size pics. If not, PM me and I'll get them to you.

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    The problem is that you keep focusing on singular points to ID and for each one you’re stretching to convince yourself. You need to focus on the whole or the sum of various ID points and they don’t add up.

    * Vertical lines of dot across entire underbelly (YFT) vs vertical stripes across back 1/3 of underbelly (BET).

    * Pectoral fins on a BET this size would have a curved sickle shape and would extend beyon the base of the second dorsal, whereas these exhibit neither. They exhibit the shape typical of YFT.

    *.Body shape is skinny and elongated like a YFT, not fat and round like a BET.

    * Notch in tail is there.

    Crew who had seen one BET in his life is hardly an expert. But for you, it’s a 15 lb BET. :D
     
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    Great report thanks for sharing
     
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    I knew as soon as I saw the title of this post it was gonna go this direction!
    Nice catch either way.
     
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    Ya'ALL SBs of SD (and surrounding locale) had me at...……………….

    "STICK YOUR FINGER UP THE FISHES ASS"
     
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    Not jumping on the Big Eye debate. Damn good report. Thanks for the intel
     
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    Regardless of whether the notch is a prominent V or not, it's still there. The stripes also go the whole length of the fish whereas on a BET, they should only be toward the last 3rd of the fish. The body shape doesn't look any different than any of the other yellowfin lying on the deck. Everybody would love for this to be a BET, but based on the criteria listed in that link, it isn't. Any pictures of the liver or swim bladder would make this a lot more clear. Unfortunately I doubt the processor took any.
     
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    Thanks for the report. Nice Yellowcore. :)

    Looks like a great trip. Jig stops, metered, paddy, or breaking fish?
     
  20. DOS BALLENAS

    DOS BALLENAS bisque is better

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    Yellowfin. Just with longer pectoral fins.

    LOOK AT THE LIVER PEOPLE!

    We tested the DNA on another similar fish last year and it came back yellowfin.....
     
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