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Everybody knows the PAC needs a better TV deal, which leads to more revenue, which leads to more money for the athletic programs, which leads to better facilities, which leads to more 4&5* recruits who want nicer cars and better pay.

College football and basketball bring in the bank. We saw what happened to numerous basketball programs, so this comes as no surprise.

I sure hope we can afford Haskins for another year, but the league may be calling and they throw some serious bank at QB’s :D
 

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Top ten PAC 12 games by tv rating:

4.4: USC-Notre Dame (5 p.m./ABC)
3.2: Washington-Auburn (12:30 p.m./ABC)
2.6: Washington-Utah/FCG (5 p.m./FOX)
2.5: Stanford-Oregon (5 p.m./ABC)
2.3: Washington-Washington State (5:30 p.m./FOX)
2.2: Oregon State-Ohio State (9 a.m./ABC)
2.1: Stanford-Notre Dame (4:30p.m./NBC)
2.1 Colorado-Nebraska (12:30 p.m./ABC)
2.0: Washington-Colorado (12:30 p.m./FOX)
1.9: Washington-Oregon (12:30 p.m./ABC)

Takeaways from Jon Wilner:

• All of the top 10 were on broadcast television (FOX or ABC).

• Half of the top 10 involved Washington.

• None of the top 10 were night games.

• Also: Only one game involved USC, and the 4.4 for the Trojans’ finale assuredly had more to do with Notre Dame’s bid for an undefeated season than anything else.

PAC-12 needs to stop scheduling the late night games. Their fear of going head-to-head with other P5 Conference games during the day is actually killing their viewership and is difficult on the fans, especially traveling fans. That Friday evening Championship Game killed the travel for UW and Utah fans.
 
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PAC-12 Commissioner Larry Scott was adamant about the Conference owning the PAC 12 Network. All other Conference Networks or Channels are owned wholly, or partially by media companies who are the distributors. SEC Network is 80% owned by ESPN. B1G Network is 51% owned by Fox and 49% by the Conference. PAC-12 is the only Conference that owns 100% of its network.

In theory, in the media industry distributors are king. Content does not get seen unless it passes through a distributor, placing content creators at the mercy of the distributors. For television, distributors pay based on the number of viewers you can produce. If a distributor has equity interest in the content, then they will be motivated to advertise and schedule the content to generate maximum viewers. PAC 12 doesn’t have that distributor equity interest relationship. Their best rated games were on the over air networks, the same ones that have equity in B1G Network and SEC Network. Do you think they’re going to bump content they own interest in for content they don’t own interest in? They will only do that when they think they can generate more viewers which benefits their network.

So my point is that Larry Scott’s own the Network model is flawed when there is equal or better content out there competing against the PAC 12. He should have cut in a Network like Fox to help pimp the content.
 
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Top ten PAC 12 games by tv rating:

4.4: USC-Notre Dame (5 p.m./ABC)
3.2: Washington-Auburn (12:30 p.m./ABC)
2.6: Washington-Utah/FCG (5 p.m./FOX)
2.5: Stanford-Oregon (5 p.m./ABC)
2.3: Washington-Washington State (5:30 p.m./FOX)
2.2: Oregon State-Ohio State (9 a.m./ABC)
2.1: Stanford-Notre Dame (4:30p.m./NBC)
2.1 Colorado-Nebraska (12:30 p.m./ABC)
2.0: Washington-Colorado (12:30 p.m./FOX)
1.9: Washington-Oregon (12:30 p.m./ABC)

Takeaways from Jon Wilner:

• All of the top 10 were on broadcast television (FOX or ABC).

• Half of the top 10 involved Washington.

• None of the top 10 were night games.

• Also: Only one game involved USC, and the 4.4 for the Trojans’ finale assuredly had more to do with Notre Dame’s bid for an undefeated season than anything else.

PAC-12 needs to stop scheduling the late night games. Their fear of going head-to-head with other P5 Conference games during the day is actually killing their viewership and is difficult on the fans, especially traveling fans. That Friday evening Championship Game killed the travel for UW and Utah fans.

SC ratings, and game attendance, correlate directly to the teams record. Almost Ny game was cheap and easy tonget tickets this year.

LA fans man, show up late and inly when the team is good.
 
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ASU getting whooped by Fresno will keep the bowl bashing smack going.

Perhaps Stanford’s women’s volleyball team winning a Natty should become the PAC’s go to conversation piece. Nothing to bash about that and congrats to those gals.
 

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ASU getting whooped by Fresno will keep the bowl bashing smack going.

Perhaps Stanford’s women’s volleyball team winning a Natty should become the PAC’s go to conversation piece. Nothing to bash about that and congrats to those gals.
Hate ASSU, but in their defense, N’Keal Harry did not play. Without Harry, ASSU’s offense is a whole lot easier to defend. Nonetheless, Embarrassing performance by ASSU.
 

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BTW the rumors have Jack Tuttle headed to Indiana. Reportedly he’ll have 4 years to play 4 because he quit on Utah before the classes counted. He will have to compete with RD Sophomore Peyton Ramsey who passed for nearly 3,000 yards 19 TDs and a 65% completion rate to rank 3rd amongst Big 10 QBs. Good luck with that. And Indiana sucked. They finished 6th in the Big 10 East with their only wins over Rutgers and Maryland.
 

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Utah lost the recruiting war for Jayden Daniels out of Cajon HS. 4* and #2 ranked dual threat QB nationally. Both Jayden and his dad were all in on Utah, but momma was not. Momma is divorced and she picked up the phone and called ASSU to recruit her son about a month ago. Momma don’t like her ex. Herm Edwards obliged.

I don’t think it’s a big loss as Daniels is 6’3” and 175 lbs and runs a 4.68 in the 40. He’s too skinny to play immediately and 4.68 is not overly fast for a DT QB. He will get crushed.

Utah made a late offer to flip Penn St QB commit Michael Johnson, but that’s a Hail Mary. Otherwise, Utah has no QB commits this year.

Oh and Utah’s OC Troy Taylor just accepted the HC position at Sacramento State. Apparently that change in offense after the Washington State game was the result of play changes implemented by the OL coach Harding who’s likely to get promoted to OC.
 

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I heard Oregon got a top 5* guy, so PAC can’t be totally written off for next season at this point, right? I mean, everybody knows one player can make a difference and all 5*’s pan out, right?:D
 

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BTW the rumors have Jack Tuttle headed to Indiana. Reportedly he’ll have 4 years to play 4 because he quit on Utah before the classes counted. He will have to compete with RD Sophomore Peyton Ramsey who passed for nearly 3,000 yards 19 TDs and a 65% completion rate to rank 3rd amongst Big 10 QBs. Good luck with that. And Indiana sucked. They finished 6th in the Big 10 East with their only wins over Rutgers and Maryland.
Tuttle should have taken the opportunity to play for the Buckeyes, when he had the chance. There was little to no chance he would have beaten out Haskins. Maybe he can help Indiana in a couple years, but we shall see:confused:
 

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Tuttle should have taken the opportunity to play for the Buckeyes, when he had the chance. There was little to no chance he would have beaten out Haskins. Maybe he can help Indiana in a couple years, but we shall see:confused:
His daddy is the quintessential helicopter parent. Called Whitt to complain that his son wasn’t playing after he lost out to Jason Shelley. Indiana will have their hands full...

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...s-iu-football-after-utah-transfer/2336246002/
 

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His daddy is the quintessential helicopter parent. Called Whitt to complain that his son wasn’t playing after he lost out to Jason Shelley. Indiana will have their hands full...

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...s-iu-football-after-utah-transfer/2336246002/
Chris Olave, freshman wide receiver who played with Tuttle at Mission Hills, is working out better thus far. He didn’t get much playing time until another Buckeye receiver got hurt, but those two touchdowns and blocked punt he had against Meatchicken was nice work. He contributed in the B1G conference championship game as well.

Perhaps Olave made Tuttle look better than he really is, and Urban got the one he really wanted. Indiana competes better than many realize, but they don’t win enough of the close games. Tuttle will need to show some game to get any playing time there.
 

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Can we add dem Cal Bears to the PAC bashers thread?:food-smiley-014:
Cal was not a very good team this year. No offense. Defense was ok, but they gave up 262 yards rushing to TCU? 5 INTs. Hard to win when you have that many turnovers.

ASSU did not have N’Keal Harry playing. Without him they become one dimensional run team and easy to beat.

I did not watch either game. Been up at our home in Stevensville MT recovering from foot surgery. Do not have a TV up here. Could have watched on computer, but why bother. These are lower tier bowls featuring teams barely eligible for bowl games.
 

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I did watch the game. The problem is that Cal's third string quarterback must really suck.

Why is that the problem? Because he can't beat out the two guys ahead of him who played, and they suck too. Ok, Garbers as a freshman has potential, but he hasn't fulfilled it yet. They had only two good passes the whole game, and both of those were due to the receivers' skill and efforts at least as much as the quarterbacks'. And when Laird went out in the first half, so did the remnant's of Cal's offense. TCU won because they developed a running game in the second half. About the best that could be said is that Cal's played as expected--good defense, lousy offense.

The most exciting play of the game was that wacky backfield multi-pass attempt by TCU.
 

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I did watch the game. The problem is that Cal's third string quarterback must really suck.

Why is that the problem? Because he can't beat out the two guys ahead of him who played, and they suck too. Ok, Garbers as a freshman has potential, but he hasn't fulfilled it yet. They had only two good passes the whole game, and both of those were due to the receivers' skill and efforts at least as much as the quarterbacks'. And when Laird went out in the first half, so did the remnant's of Cal's offense. TCU won because they developed a running game in the second half. About the best that could be said is that Cal's played as expected--good defense, lousy offense.

The most exciting play of the game was that wacky backfield multi-pass attempt by TCU.
Brad are you saying that the prospects for Cal next year are not good?
 

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Brad are you saying that the prospects for Cal next year are not good?
Yep, maybe a .500 team. They only have 2 players of note from this year returning--linebacker Weaver and punter Coutts. But I thought that .500 was beyond reach this year, so maybe I'll again be pleasantly surprised.
 

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Yep, maybe a .500 team. They only have 2 players of note from this year returning--linebacker Weaver and punter Coutts. But I thought that .500 was beyond reach this year, so maybe I'll again be pleasantly surprised.
Damn it Brad, you were supposed to say that Cal has a strong team coming back and that they will be taking down Big T Utes next October. No way in hell you should not make him sweat and allow him to put one in the win column already.

Pretty good chance T will now spend that time dissecting my Buckeyes and pulling my chain, rather than stressing over his own damn team. ;)
 

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Cal was not a very good team this year. No offense. Defense was ok, but they gave up 262 yards rushing to TCU? 5 INTs. Hard to win when you have that many turnovers.

ASSU did not have N’Keal Harry playing. Without him they become one dimensional run team and easy to beat.

I did not watch either game. Been up at our home in Stevensville MT recovering from foot surgery. Do not have a TV up here. Could have watched on computer, but why bother. These are lower tier bowls featuring teams barely eligible for bowl games.
You are planning to watch the Utes v Northwestern, right? What’s your score prediction? I am thinking low scoring, with winner by 3-6 points. Could go either way but I am leaning in Northwestern’s favor, perhaps 19-16.
 

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You are planning to watch the Utes v Northwestern, right? What’s your score prediction? I am thinking low scoring, with winner by 3-6 points. Could go either way but I am leaning in Northwestern’s favor, perhaps 19-16.
I’ll be attending the game.

Vegas line is Utah -7.

NW will be without their two top defenders:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/spor...ern-holiday-bowl-injuries-20181221-story.html

When asked whether Huntley would be starting at QB, Kyle Whittingham gave a classic response:

“there’s two things I’m good at, being vague, and that other thing.”

There were rumors that Chase Hansen would not play due to dislocated hip suffered in the CCG against UW, but he made the flight. Also, his back up, Frances Bernard, is no slouch.

Most who have watched both teams agree that NW is smaller and slower across the board. Utah will win the game in the trenches.

If Huntley plays, Utah wins by 2 TDs or more. If it’s Shelley, depends on which Shelley shows up. If it’s Jason Shelley from the PAC 12 CCG against UW, it could be a close game with Utah losing. If the Jason Shelley from the other games show up, Utah wins by 1 TD, maybe less.
 
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Auburn up 21-0 over Purdue in the first Quarter. Hmmmm let’s see. Purdue routed tOSU and Auburn had to score late for a close come from behind win over UW in what was arguably a home game for Auburn. I think that spells trouble for tOSU against UW in the Rose Bowl. I think Knotty be very nervous about this game.
 
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Like he wasn't going to do that anyway...:p:
Well something to stress about, Utah lost another OC with Troy Taylor taking the HC job at Sacramento St. Sacramento is his home town, but he took a 50% pay cut, though reportedly got a 7 year guaranteed contract. However, it is Sacramento St, an abysmal FCS program. I personally don’t think it’s a big loss. They had to insert the OL coach Harding and step up the run game after back to back losses to UW and WSU this year. Taylor’s so called iPhone offense was not impressive.

Whitt has reportedly interviewed Mike McCoy, former HC of the Chargers. I think McCoy would be an excellent choice.
 

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Update: Auburn up 56-7 over Purdue at halftime. Knotty should be very worried.