P-322f Trying to get more drag pressure

Amigo

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Any help would be appreciated , trying to get more drag on a P 322f og. Upgraded drags to Carbontex with some Cal's grease,any idea how to lap drags for more pressure, or maybe run drags dry? Any ideas would be appreciated Thanks.........
 

reel man

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Order some stainless drag discs from Smooooth Drags. They're lapped flat, so mucho more contact with the drag material.
 

marlyn

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Honestly i think you got out of it what you can with the carbontex and as for the stainless drag discs i tried it(smooth drag is my neighbor!) and saw NO increase in drag pressure from stock so unless yours are old or jacked up thats not gonna help IMO.How much drag do you need to fish 25 or 30 really anyways?you should be able to get 8-10 pounds with the carbontex.
 

Amigo

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Thanks for all replys guys. I will try the other lapped discs for sure. Just trying something so that I dont have to crank down on star ....
 

REELKING

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if ur tigten all the way down for some local fish then maybe u should up grade ur reel not the drags
 

stiffblade

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Don't go heavy on the drag grease just a light film on both sides. Yes you will lose a pound or two of drag due to the grease but the smooth start up of the drag is what keeps the fish on the hook instead of a jerky drag that breaks the line. If anything you should have more drag with an original P332F, that reel usually has a 4 stack drag. Get the schematic and make sure all your washers and spacers are aligned correctly. 25-30lb line is the sweet spot for that reel.

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Amigo

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If you dont have anything good to say or help f-off, I probably have more reels and have caught fish than you donkey.
 

kantstudien

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There are different sized washers that go between the brass spacer and the drag star. If you play around with the two different thicknesses (3-18), you can get more drag. On a P322 you can usually do at least one thick and one thin, but there might be room for two thick. Also get rid of the wavy washers if it is an original P-series. Replace with the two different 3-18 drag lock washers.

If it is a P-series, then you will have more room to play with because the aluminum star is thinner than the graphite one. Too many washers and you won't be able to tighten the star down enough to put the handle on, or else once you get the handle on you won't be able to back the star off. It's a balancing act really.
 

ShadowX

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If you need more drag, put your fingers on the spool as the fish runs. :rofl:
 

mchawk

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Give Smoooth Drag a call, they make a 5 stack carbontex drag set-up for the penn 500's, they should work in the newells too.
 

BAJA.DESERT.RAT

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Hola,

i had the same problems with my 332's and 322's with shimano greased penn 500 drag washers.

i added one extra greased penn washer to the middle washer and it works fine for me.

BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
 

OFN

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X2 on the smooth drag discs and washers. I have them on my old 338P. Don't know that I have any more pressure, but the drag system just performs much nicer. Great products.
 

tunachris

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Try to find the old conversions for the wave washers. It has two beveled washers. The thicker on goes inside the reel on top of the drag stack. The thinner one goes on just before the star drag. This should give a lot more drag.
 

bluefish69

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Here in Brooklyn N.Y. we have been using HT-100s [6-309] dry with a 18-505 Penn beveled washer on top. I work on a PB here in Brooklyn so I hear a lot of combos but this work OK for us. Next I am trying a 8-60 Penn beveled washer.
 

tunachris

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For #30 there shouldn't be any problem getting enough drag out of an older P series Newell. 40 should be okay, any heavier is likely going to be an issue.

The reels as originally designed were meant to be fished with 20-40 pound test. Used within those parameters there shouldn't be any problem getting enough drag.
 

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To max out the drag around 32# on a P 332 is quite easy. Contact Bryan Young at Alantani.com


What you need is the 5+1 set which comes with very thin SS disc and .5mm smoothdrags. The plus one goes under the gear. I have personally taken this a step further. I can attach a thin SS disc to my gear sleeves and use a full size .5mm smoothdrag under my gear. I have tested this system a year now and no problem. Just very smooth and strong drags.

My 500 Newells have a full 6 disc arrangement and go to 42#. My 600s have an eight disc arrangement and I don't know the max but it is powerful.
 
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X2 with Bryan.

My 332 now gets 25# of drag, I couldn't get that before with the current stack and Carbontex. Super smooth as well...
 

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Amigo, Young's Tackle at 4972 La Palma Ave, La Palma, CA 90623 (562) 402-9191 carries the drag kit.
 

eddiefishtaco

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You may need a new Belville washer
I'll get the 5 stack kit from Alantani.com