Owner Ultra Split Rings: the right pliers?

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A while back I spent the 70 bucks on the HPA split ring pliers, in order to open the beastly Owner Ultra split rings. But each time I use them, and get the split ring on the wire of a jig, the split ring did not snap back all the way. You can see a slight gap; it's been permanently de-formed.

I tried to open these rings with my 10 dollar pliers; they don't work.

So the question to y'all: have you found a particular brand of split ring pliers that will open these rings enough to get them on a jig, without de-forming the ring?

Or is this a flaw with the Ultra....that it can't easily be used without de-forming? (the act of rotating the ring around the jig wire deforms the ring, no matter how it was originally opened...?)

Thanks

p.s. yes, I have the biggest Hyperwire rings. I want the Ultras to work :-)
 
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    Following.. I've found that its not necessarily the pliers that deform the ring but the act of sliding in the jig that deforms them for me. I've tried pressing them back into shape but no matter what I do there is still a slight opening. This is especially true in the larger/heavier rings.
     

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    A while back I spent the 70 bucks on the HPA split ring pliers, in order to open the beastly Owner Ultra split rings. But each time I use them, and get the split ring on the wire of a jig, the split ring did not snap back all the way. You can see a slight gap; it's been permanently de-formed.

    I tried to open these rings with my 10 dollar pliers; they don't work.

    So the question to y'all: have you found a particular brand of split ring pliers that will open these rings enough to get them on a jig, without de-forming the ring?

    Or is this a flaw with the Ultra....that it can't easily be used without de-forming? (the act of rotating the ring around the jig wire deforms the ring, no matter how it was originally opened...?)

    Thanks

    p.s. yes, I have the biggest Hyperwire rings. I want the Ultras to work :-)
    I have the Shimano ones, and using them on jigs, it not too easy to get them through the hole, because the jigs are fatter then flat falls, that is why
    Most people have a jigs brazed
    With a solid ring.
     
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    effigy

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    Which one? Too many....
    Following.. I've found that its not necessarily the pliers that deform the ring but the act of sliding in the jig that deforms them for me. I've tried pressing them back into shape but no matter what I do there is still a slight opening. This is especially true in the larger/heavier rings.
    Yes...I think you're right! If I simply pop the end of the split ring open with the HPA pliers, the ring snaps back fine. It's only after doing the whole rotation that it seems to de-form. I may have to settle for the Hyperwire #11.
     
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    Ive been using the dr fish 400lb split rings from Amazon. Mainly because they return to their original shape. And they are really strong

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    Agreed. I found them to be easier to split, with no memory. Haven’t hung a big fish on them yet, but they survived a 150# dead pull with no issues.
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    effigy

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    Which one? Too many....
    Ive been using the dr fish 400lb split rings from Amazon. Mainly because they return to their original shape. And they are really strong
    You know what's interesting....in looking at pics of this dr fish split ring...I see that the wire has a 'flat' on it. Both the Williamson and Mustad jigs come with a similar style split ring, and it turns out that they hold up pretty well. As in....several >150 lb bluefin, with no failure. I'm still a little leary because it's not known to me who makes those rings.
     
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    A while back I spent the 70 bucks on the HPA split ring pliers, in order to open the beastly Owner Ultra split rings. But each time I use them, and get the split ring on the wire of a jig, the split ring did not snap back all the way. You can see a slight gap; it's been permanently de-formed.

    I tried to open these rings with my 10 dollar pliers; they don't work.

    So the question to y'all: have you found a particular brand of split ring pliers that will open these rings enough to get them on a jig, without de-forming the ring?

    Or is this a flaw with the Ultra....that it can't easily be used without de-forming? (the act of rotating the ring around the jig wire deforms the ring, no matter how it was originally opened...?)

    Thanks

    p.s. yes, I have the biggest Hyperwire rings. I want the Ultras to work :-)
    As others have said, for $13 try the pitbull pliers. I find them easy to use.

    Another restatement, your problem may be the size of the jig not the pliers.
     
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    Best one to open heavy split rings is the braid anglers tool. I use it for the even the heaviest split rings and 6/0 trebles. I suggest tying a piece of string or a trash bag tie to the split ring when trying to put a bigger hook in. Sometime the ring just shoots off and it is much easier to find if it is attached to something.
     
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    A while back I spent the 70 bucks on the HPA split ring pliers, in order to open the beastly Owner Ultra split rings. But each time I use them, and get the split ring on the wire of a jig, the split ring did not snap back all the way. You can see a slight gap; it's been permanently de-formed.

    I tried to open these rings with my 10 dollar pliers; they don't work.

    So the question to y'all: have you found a particular brand of split ring pliers that will open these rings enough to get them on a jig, without de-forming the ring?

    Or is this a flaw with the Ultra....that it can't easily be used without de-forming? (the act of rotating the ring around the jig wire deforms the ring, no matter how it was originally opened...?)

    Thanks

    p.s. yes, I have the biggest Hyperwire rings. I want the Ultras to work :-)
    pit bull
     
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    Following.. I've found that its not necessarily the pliers that deform the ring but the act of sliding in the jig that deforms them for me. I've tried pressing them back into shape but no matter what I do there is still a slight opening. This is especially true in the larger/heavier rings.
    Yes, this is really the issue. It's more prevalent today due to folks modifying slow pitch / flat fall style jigs with stout hardware and larger hooks. Putting a 5/0 ST-76 or 10/0 7691 on the largest, heaviest #11 Ultra Wire split ring still requires opening the ring wider than the HPA or equivalent split ring plier can do.
     
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    Any luck with KastKing pliers? Intimidator model. $19.99 Amazon
     
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    I use the Shimano’s also $17ish bucks. Once you get the ring over the jig or hook, be gentle you just have to spin it on from there. If I’m working with a treble hook I’ll also use a pair of duck-bills to hold the hook. And I agree soldered rings are best.
     
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    Steve K

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    So, I may have screwed the pooch. I ordered the Pitbull pliers, directly from the manufacturer, just now realizing they make a HD version. They’re due to arrive Friday. I also ordered a bag of their split rings. Not a word of advice from them on my choice or if the pliers I ordered are compatible with the rings, I think 350#

    Should I return them and order the HD model?
     
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    So, I may have screwed the pooch. I ordered the Pitbull pliers, directly from the manufacturer, just now realizing they make a HD version. They’re due to arrive Friday. I also ordered a bag of their split rings. Not a word of advice from them on my choice or if the pliers I ordered are compatible with the rings, I think 350#

    Should I return them and order the HD model?
    I suspect we both ordered the pit bulls reflexing to some thread - -mine can today. I ordered both sizes. the little ones are itty bitty. Have not yet tried them, but suspect I might not even open the little ones. Big ones look nice, and are quite different that either classic split rings or the Texas style.
     
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    Regular sr pliers work on light stuff...bass lures etc.
    The HD work on the heavier stuff...
    I use the HD on my 100# plus split rings.

    Steve...pm me
    I'll send you a pair of HD's
     
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    Update, Mike Grieco (Blind Luck) hooked me up with the right pliers and some other swag. Good dude, thanks!
     
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