Okuma Komodo SS 471P: First Look

Oct 27, 2014
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The large low profile reels are replacing my old 3/0 sized star drags as my "do it all" reels with a little more emphasis on casting lures than older reels.

Poppers? Check.
Live Bait? Check.
Surface Iron? Check.
Yo-yo? Check.
Swim Baits? Check.
SP Minnows or Lucky Crafts? Check.
Vertical Jigging? Check.
Bucktails at the beach? Check.

You could identify one reel that maybe does one of the above things better, but not all of them as well as compared to a modern LP reel with the cranking power to boot.

:)

I love to throw lucky crafts at the islands when the yellowtail are up on top. I haven't seen a lot of people use them in that circumstance but if you replace the hooks they really are a killer. Plus in the middle of the bass bite on sardines I've thrown the heavy one at Clemente and got a halibut. Stoked to use this reel.
 
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hdz805

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Just received my yesterday straight from okuma
Put in the order from jigging world, they really are a great store
Reel looks great
Pairing it with the 8'2 m1 H
Now to get some bluefin to bite
 

Outhouse

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John, I mentioned in another post the failure I had with this exact reel the first time it saw water. I'm waiting to get it returned to Okuma for inspection.

That aside, how do you adjust the cast control? Do you actually have to open the reel up?
 

johndtuttle

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John, I mentioned in another post the failure I had with this exact reel the first time it saw water. I'm waiting to get it returned to Okuma for inspection.

That aside, how do you adjust the cast control? Do you actually have to open the reel up?
Sorry you had trouble. There is always the chance of getting a lemon. what trouble did you have?

Cast control is twofold:

1. The spool tension knob should be adjusted so that what you are casting falls slowly to the ground. Not too slow and you can over do it, you will know.

2. The centrifugal brakes are in the left side. Use the thumb screw on the right side (silver, it has a rough texture to it). It may need a screwdriver to loosen it at first from the factory but hand tight after that is fine. Loosen it, a spring will pop it out, then turn the left side plate clockwise to open it.

The centrifugal brakes are on the spool, just click on 2 to start and add as needed.

Let me know how you make out. :)
 

Outhouse

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Sorry you had trouble. There is always the chance of getting a lemon. what trouble did you have?

Cast control is twofold:

1. The spool tension knob should be adjusted so that what you are casting falls slowly to the ground. Not too slow and you can over do it, you will know.

2. The centrifugal brakes are in the left side. Use the thumb screw on the right side (silver, it has a rough texture to it). It may need a screwdriver to loosen it at first from the factory but hand tight after that is fine. Loosen it, a spring will pop it out, then turn the left side plate clockwise to open it.

The centrifugal brakes are on the spool, just click on 2 to start and add as needed.

Let me know how you make out. :)
John, on the 1st morning I used the reel, I hooked up to a fish and fought it but moments before a shark hit the fish. I went back to the tackle station to retie. After doing so, I always pull on the line to ck the drags and found I could not pull any line out at any drag setting. The reel would go into free spool and would retrieve, but the drags were frozen.

I'm an accountant and leave reel maintenance to those so inclined. I have zero idea what happened but it did so quickly. Very disappointing.
 

909MARIO

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I LOVE THE WAY IT LOOKS! :appl:
OKUMA GETS AN APPLAUSE FOR DESIGN ALSO :appl:

Its on my bucket list of things to get. Great write up John
 
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johndtuttle

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John, on the 1st morning I used the reel, I hooked up to a fish and fought it but moments before a shark hit the fish. I went back to the tackle station to retie. After doing so, I always pull on the line to ck the drags and found I could not pull any line out at any drag setting. The reel would go into free spool and would retrieve, but the drags were frozen.

I'm an accountant and leave reel maintenance to those so inclined. I have zero idea what happened but it did so quickly. Very disappointing.
Did you crank the drag down to try and get it away from the shark?

It sounds like the Clutch is grabbing the drag/ar sleeve and not releasing it. This can sometimes happen. East fix, but get it to Okuma or another repair shop.
 

Baja Belk

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Nice write up! Would love to see a side-by-side comparison of the Lexa, Komodo, Tranx, and the new 13 Fishing Concept A3 (30 lbs drag in a 300 size reel). I think the better sealed thumb opening might make a big difference over the Lexa. I have a 1st gen Lexa 300 and the reel is great, but it requires constant disassembly and maintenance, and every time I open it up I am surprised with the amount of salt buildup everywhere. I have not yet serviced my 400. I also would love to see one of the new 400's put up against a big fish. I mean 150+ lb bluefin or something. I know several 100 lbers have been caught on Lexa 400s, I know the drag is in theory strong enough to stop a run, but can it hold up over repeated long runs? I think drag strength, while important, should also be considered with durability under duress and ability to maintain strength under heat build up. It's tempting to grab an LP reel that you can confidently cast a mile, but you might be sorry if the wrong fish bites.
 

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John, on the 1st morning I used the reel, I hooked up to a fish and fought it but moments before a shark hit the fish. I went back to the tackle station to retie. After doing so, I always pull on the line to ck the drags and found I could not pull any line out at any drag setting. The reel would go into free spool and would retrieve, but the drags were frozen.

I'm an accountant and leave reel maintenance to those so inclined. I have zero idea what happened but it did so quickly. Very disappointing.

Keep us posted as to the resolution please. :)
 

johndtuttle

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Nice write up! Would love to see a side-by-side comparison of the Lexa, Komodo, Tranx, and the new 13 Fishing Concept A3 (30 lbs drag in a 300 size reel). I think the better sealed thumb opening might make a big difference over the Lexa. I have a 1st gen Lexa 300 and the reel is great, but it requires constant disassembly and maintenance, and every time I open it up I am surprised with the amount of salt buildup everywhere. I have not yet serviced my 400. I also would love to see one of the new 400's put up against a big fish. I mean 150+ lb bluefin or something. I know several 100 lbers have been caught on Lexa 400s, I know the drag is in theory strong enough to stop a run, but can it hold up over repeated long runs? I think drag strength, while important, should also be considered with durability under duress and ability to maintain strength under heat build up. It's tempting to grab an LP reel that you can confidently cast a mile, but you might be sorry if the wrong fish bites.

See this post if you have any needs about servicing your Lexa:

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/th...service-tutorial-and-maintenance-tips.584655/

If the future I expect we'll see beefed up tank versions of the large LP reels with heavier frames etc. Any conventional reel for casting lures is better served by this geometry, imo.
 

kuyamonster

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Great report as always, John. Looks like Okuma is "BEARing" it's teeth again and has a solid reel class winner here. I know I speak for a lot of anglers who are grateful for the wealth of information you provide over the years not only on BD, but on Alan Tani's website as well. From old school Jigmasters and Squidders, to die hard reel favorites like the Sealine series and even the gamut of new, modern lever drags and low pro offshore reels, you diligently cover most if not all of it. Many a time your applied expertise has resulted in successful fishing trips for a lot of people, including myself. Wish I could click "send" and have a nice adult beverage sent your way. Sometimes the words "thank you" aren't enough. Keep up the awesome posts and all the best and continued success in your endeavors...
 

Outhouse

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Keep us posted as to the resolution please. :)
John, I will. I've probably over-reacted to the reel problems, but I get one chance per year to fish the left coast. I just finished my 11th trip and in all those years, I've had one tackle failure and it happened to be a new reel. I did everything I could to get this reel prior to our trip and I was delighted to buy it the afternoon before my trip.
 

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John, I will. I've probably over-reacted to the reel problems, but I get one chance per year to fish the left coast. I just finished my 11th trip and in all those years, I've had one tackle failure and it happened to be a new reel. I did everything I could to get this reel prior to our trip and I was delighted to buy it the afternoon before my trip.
Oh, sorry man, that is very disappointing. I'm sure its something simple. Let us know what Okuma says. :(
 

hucklongfin

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I love to throw lucky crafts at the islands when the yellowtail are up on top. I haven't seen a lot of people use them in that circumstance but if you replace the hooks they really are a killer. Plus in the middle of the bass bite on sardines I've thrown the heavy one at Clemente and got a halibut. Stoked to use this reel.
I like the LC Flashminnow 190SR. I've caught lots of YT on them both casting and trolling the Parrot Shad color. Yes, fish will eat that color!
 
Oct 27, 2014
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I like the LC Flashminnow 190SR. I've caught lots of YT on them both casting and trolling the Parrot Shad color. Yes, fish will eat that color!
Never tried the parrot color. I'll grab one when I'm at the shop to pick up this reel. How fast do you troll them? I've trolled them in the harbor off a kayak for cuda and bonie's but that's a really slow speed.
 

hucklongfin

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I trolled them from a Panga at Cedros Island. We were going faster than the LC really liked but the YT didn't mind.
 

njoyflyfishing

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Thanks for all the great information. As a recovering tackleholic, I found it interesting and made me curious about trying one for offshore trips in SD.

@johndtuttle - You mention that the handle on the komodo is 120mm. I assume that the center of the handle nut to center of the center of the knob stem is somewhere around 60mm minus a couple, maybe 57mm or something.

I noticed that the komodo in the 400 size can come in 6.3, or 7.1 with a 33.5" and a 37.7" retrieve. The lexa 400 HD comes in a 7.1 or an 8.1 ratio with 37.7 and 43 inch retrieve. The difference in line retrieve between a 6.3 and say an 8.1 is nearly 30%, while between 6.3 & 7.1 is somewhere just north of 10%. It looks like the power handles on both models spec at 120mm, which I assume is around a 57mm center of nut to center of knob.

Question for those of you that use these types of reels: what do you think the sweet spot is for the gear ratio/retrieve for the kind of fishing that you do?

Thanks again.

NJ
 

hucklongfin

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I've caught bass, YT, YFT, Wahoo on my Lexa 400 with 7:1 gears. I'd do it again.
 
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johndtuttle

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Thanks for all the great information. As a recovering tackleholic, I found it interesting and made me curious about trying one for offshore trips in SD.

@johndtuttle - You mention that the handle on the komodo is 120mm. I assume that the center of the handle nut to center of the center of the knob stem is somewhere around 60mm minus a couple, maybe 57mm or something.

I noticed that the komodo in the 400 size can come in 6.3, or 7.1 with a 33.5" and a 37.7" retrieve. The lexa 400 HD comes in a 7.1 or an 8.1 ratio with 37.7 and 43 inch retrieve. The difference in line retrieve between a 6.3 and say an 8.1 is nearly 30%, while between 6.3 & 7.1 is somewhere just north of 10%. It looks like the power handles on both models spec at 120mm, which I assume is around a 57mm center of nut to center of knob.

Question for those of you that use these types of reels: what do you think the sweet spot is for the gear ratio/retrieve for the kind of fishing that you do?

Thanks again.

NJ
Its very hard to say that one retrieval speed or another is better for one's individual fishing because there are so many styles and variables and one reel's 7:1 is not the same as another's due to different spool heights and handle lengths. So they may have the same IPT, but different effort needed to move the handle.

Bait/deep jigging/surface iron generally lower speed is enough to get bit and to gain as much cranking power during the fight.

Poppers/Wahoo Iron/Yo-Yo generally speed is a big part of getting bit, with some measure of added effort needed after the hook up.

If you use that rule of thumb it will get you started. :)
 
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joetunaguy

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Well I don't have this reel yet .. When it show in the configuration with power handle vs paddle I'll most likely get one. I have the smaller earlier version 364 or something like that.

I really like the reel. It's the stainless gearing and clicker and price . No question. Dawia does strange stuff and knows it.. I could go on and on but it's almost beyond marketing logic boarding on big ego. I guess the their latest was the HD version ... so funny.

Anyway the komodo needs outside mag adjustment . Not that open clam and adjust in field..
Other than that it's an almost perfect reel ...
It's limited in casting via the level wind. but in some cases so what :)

Congrats Okuma on a fine products. And the clicker .. Oh yeah :)
 

1steveT

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What's the word on the new 450SS?
I'm thinking of getting one to pair up with a Tuna Popper rod.