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nefarious235

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I could liquidate in 90 days, and never set foot in the US again. I think about that all the time.
But I love the US, and am willing to invest time and resources to make it great.

My goal is simple. To create a more perfect union.
Please please please please please please please pretty please.
When they take over the banks and shut them down there not advertising 90 days in advance except to themselves. You ain't one.
 
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BiggestT

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I thought Biden’s chances would implode in the first 5 minutes of the initial debate, but apparently he’s imploding much sooner than expected:


Election night will be epic once again as I was my feet with liberal tears.
 
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plj46

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And you dont think your doctor's hands are tied by insurers?

You are living in a fantasy. We have 'death panels' now. They are run by insurance companies.

To make profit by denying coverage is barbaric. Insurers take at least 20% of revenue off the top. I would rather that money go back into treatment.
Of course my Doctors hands are tied by insurers.The difference is the wait time for a decision on treatments.I was severely injured by a Chiropractor.Turns out i needed disc repair surgery.My Surgeon had approval in a day from my insurer.I'm guessing it would have been a lot longer than that with some Government official making the decision.I've seen what my ex father in law has gone through with his VA care,no thanks.
 

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I pay the government FAR more than I personally receive back in assistance.

I am not a little bitch about it like Republicans.
Said the man on Obamacare living in Mexico. At least you are being honest here.
 
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plj46

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I would rather deal with the inefficiency of government than have corporate profits taking their chunk.
You might die waiting for the Government to give an ok for treatment.Crazy.
 

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Of course my Doctors hands are tied by insurers.The difference is the wait time for a decision on treatments.I was severely injured by a Chiropractor.Turns out i needed disc repair surgery.My Surgeon had approval in a day from my insurer.I'm guessing it would have been a lot longer than that with some Government official making the decision.I've seen what my ex father in law has gone through with his VA care,no thanks.
I have great healthcare: CIGNA PPO. I can go to any specialist I want. Yeah I could retire now, but I work for the healthcare and I like my work. I had my retired wife suspend Medicare A and I put her on my CIGNA Plan. Right now her arthritic shoulder is being treated by the Dodger’s Team physician at Kerlan Job Orthopedic. Bottom line, I work to get such preferred treatment. If you want to be on the government plan, get used to receiving the minimum in care because you didn’t work for it.
 

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You might die waiting for the Government to give an ok for treatment.Crazy.
Looks like his socialist bent superseded any value derived from his online MBA. Prefers denying private insurers a profit in favor of washing everything through government largesse.
 
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As Veteran I suffered a career ending shoulder injury... The Army did the best they could to fix me, by giving me pills, when that didn't work they operated... My shoulder is ruined!
20 years later, I ho to the VA because I can barely lift my arm... It took 6 weeks 5 visits to the VA hospital that take all day, to see a doctor that specializes in bones. He prescribed a cream and gave me physical therapy perscription. That took a couple more weeks to get started.

My shoulder is still ruined!

That is REAL GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE...
THIS IS WHAT WE GIVE OUR HEROES...
BUT I AM SURE ONCE THEY ARE TREATING REGULAR CITIZENS IT WILL BE DIFFERENT!
 

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I have great healthcare: CIGNA PPO. I can go to any specialist I want. Yeah I could retire now, but I work for the healthcare and I like my work. I had my retired wife suspend Medicare A and I put her on my CIGNA Plan. Right now her arthritic shoulder is being treated by the Dodger’s Team physician at Kerlan Job Orthopedic. Bottom line, I work to get such preferred treatment. If you want to be on the government plan, get used to receiving the minimum in care because you didn’t work for it.
The wife and i also chose the best plan offered from her employer.Aetna PPO.Paying more actually saved me some money with that injury because of the better coverage.If i had Government insurance i'd probably still be laying flat on my back waiting for surgery.
 
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BiggestT

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As Veteran I suffered a career ending shoulder injury... The Army did the best they could to fix me, by giving me pills, when that didn't work they operated... My shoulder is ruined!
20 years later, I ho to the VA because I can barely lift my arm... It took 6 weeks 5 visits to the VA hospital that take all day, to see a doctor that specializes in bones. He prescribed a cream and gave me physical therapy perscription. That took a couple more weeks to get started.

My shoulder is still ruined!

That is REAL GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE...
THIS IS WHAT WE GIVE OUR HEROES...
BUT I AM SURE ONCE THEY ARE TREATING REGULAR CITIZENS IT WILL BE DIFFERENT!
Oh man, I feel for you. Sounds like you need shoulder replacement surgery. I wish I could get you to Dr. John Itamura at Kerlan Job Orthopedic. There are few better.

I have one of the best foot and ankle surgeons treating my foot. I wish the outcome was perfect, but sometimes less than perfect is still a lot better than before. I just soldier on, albeit a whole lot slower with some persistent discomfort. However, the alternative I faced was eventually losing the entire ankle joint.