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ConSeaMate

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Seem's you have plenty of free time on your hand's my friend , judging from the effort you have put into this post. Also looks like your a pretty hard core God Guy & that's cool.You seem to take great satisfaction in feeling somewhat superior over others ... good for you. I on the other hand am agnostic.. humility is a lesson I have learned through 56 years of living ( Pretty sure Humility is mentioned the Bible somewhere.... ) Guess I'm not the type that gets satisfaction from trying to impress others by beating others into submission to prove a point. Pretty sure I'm on the right track. Having said that I want to thank you for "Another Lesson in Life"

Free time because I am disabled.....and I feel this Country is the Greatest Country on the Planet......Humility?......you obviously don't know me or my family......so that's were you go when you don't have facts to post?......you don't want to see the other side either.....what you say is the only thing you will believe......
 
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OILAGER

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Why does it always feel like it's always the few with possibly too much time on their hands who desire to make changes that affect the many just to prove a point. Basically accomplishing little other than thumping their chests & wagging a finger or two....?

You have just described what most politicians do with 50% of their time, the other 50% is used planning their re-election.
 
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eric harner

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Free time because I am disabled.....and I feel this Country is the Greatest Country on the Planet......Humility?......you obviously don't know me or my family......so that's were you go when you don't have facts to post?......you don't want to see the other side either.....what you say is the only thing you will believe......
No problem seeing the other side actually found most of post very informational . Believe it or not history is something I enjoy studying to this day. Yes I do agree this is a Great Country to live in and yes we are very fortunate to live here. Sorry you are disabled at this time .You are also correct in that I don't know you or you'r family I'm sure you & your family are very nice people. But that's not the point people like to talk about humility but the proof is how we conduct ourselves beyond our families & close friends , it's from the heat either you got it or you don't. My father was a WW2 vet spent 5 years over seas came back with a purple heart almost made the ultimate sacrifice having said that we were raised to respect this nation of ours and what it stands for. He was the most humble man I have ever known. I suppose you are a FACT kind person good luck with that. I'm out .
 
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Don't waste your time. If you don't agree with him or see what he see's he will call you a socialist, then when you respond your post will be erased by the moderator for being too "personal."

You (actually plenty of you) need to figure out the difference between a personal attack and something copied and pasted off the internet. The word "you" in verbatim usually means "all of you" as in the public. I hardly doubt someone writing something a year ago knows it is ~you~ reading it.
 
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ConSeaMate

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No problem seeing the other side actually found most of post very informational . Believe it or not history is something I enjoy studying to this day. Yes I do agree this is a Great Country to live in and yes we are very fortunate to live here. Sorry you are disabled at this time .You are also correct in that I don't know you or you'r family I'm sure you & your family are very nice people. But that's not the point people like to talk about humility but the proof is how we conduct ourselves beyond our families & close friends , it's from the heat either you got it or you don't. My father was a WW2 vet spent 5 years over seas came back with a purple heart almost made the ultimate sacrifice having said that we were raised to respect this nation of ours and what it stands for. He was the most humble man I have ever known. I suppose you are a FACT kind person good luck with that. I'm out .

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J.C.

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Their is no GOD! Merry Christmas:finger:
 
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Saluki

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Do you think Joseph was pissed when he found out he wasn't the father?
 
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Blackfish

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[video=youtube_share;Isg6Kx-3xdI]http://youtu.be/Isg6Kx-3xdI[/video]
 
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gonzo25

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VERY SIMPLY.....REMOVE THE $$$ FROM THE EQUASION. (sorry about the caps) all i'm saying is private funding ends this problem. anytime lawyers get involved we all lose.

and as far as the country being founded on religious principles.... its a good thing early Christians cleared the path of natives and savages (american Indians) those whom did not convert where met with death or slavery. (and they were doing gods work)

for myself i have never need a guide book on how to be a good human, it just comes natural. when i'm doing right, i feel good. when i'm doing wrong i feel bad, and try to make it right. for me these "principles" come naturally. if you google 10 commandments you'll find that most religions have their own interpretations of them, mostly similar from my brief reading, so i would consider them to be common sense for living your life.

so where back to this.....government should not in any way support ($$$$) any religion or its symbols without equally supporting all the other "faiths". which would open pandoras box. government itself should represent its constituents without passion or prejudice. and as for getting sworn in on a bible... i'd prefer they swear an oath to serve the people, not the book. their promise should be to those they represent.


Well the country was founded on "christian" principles, but I guess you can call them religious if you want to.
If you had ever really read the bible then you would know that only God does Gods work... but don't feel bad there are plenty of... "religous types" who claim to read the bible, but miss the message too... you know little things like, not judging others and shit like that. Remember the bible wasn't written by God, it was written by men who thought they were being inspired by God. There was only one person who couldn't be decieved by the devil... and that is why king James had everything that he said printed in red... of course that's what I was told, I didn't get that with birth. A truer statement would be, men acting and claiming to be doing the work of God... but then again i have never heard anyone putting it quite the way you did either.

People then weren't much different than those today, only they use different terms today to justify being a fucked person and claiming innocence like, "that's business" or "I'm just doing my job."

It appears that unlike the majority of us who learned or were taught things, like what is right and wrong.... usually taught by your parents so you would know how to act... incredibly you were born with the knowledge. I am in aw and impressed, (jealous too) because i was not. Your not alone, I have heard guys make statements on here that no one taught them anything about fishing, they learned it all on their own. Which is complete and total bullshit... but it may explain why they are such fucked fishermen.

I don't think the settlers of the country were all that special or different,... I think you will find that there were more wars and killing done in the name of or influenced by religion... of course they didn't do it in the name of any religion, they just did it.

I also didn't know the Indians were slaves. Were they more or less than their counter parts? and how long were they used as slaves?

Your right about the ten commandments, in fact I have used that argument myself, they are just common sense rules... you don't want to have people lie to you.. of come by and fuck your ol' lady.. or steal from you.. and certainly not kill you..
Dam I wish everyone was born with that knowledge because a lot of people out there must have missed these rules by what I see today... oh wait a minute..., they thought they applied to everyone EXCEPT them, you couldn't do it to them but it is okay that they do it to you.

Since you never used "that guide book" are you sure what you think is good or bad is what we think is good or bad? After all the guy from the above paragraph thought it was right and it felt good when he stopped by your house and fucked your ol' lady.

Now relax, don't take it personal..,. I am making a joke about a serious issue.


BUT Before I forget... that information you were born with is a little off.... you are sworn in on the bible because the bible represents living by rules like the ten commandments where you don't lie, steal, and covet your brothers girlfriend.... and if you listen to the words, on most all of the others I have taken, you are swearing to serve or to uphold the laws or whatever it may be... but unless your swearing in for some religious shit, I have never heard someone swearing to serve the book.

This is a perfect example of the confusion people have with God and the bible in our government... one nation under God... in God we Trust... the ten commandments on the court house walls... THIS IS NOT RELIGION OR RELIGIOUS it is a reference to something that is known to represent right and wrong, good and bad... and that is all that it is.

Personally I like the system just like it is(as far as god and the bible are concerned).... you don't have to believe... and you don't have to like seeing god or a cross and you don't have to go to any church or believe in God, You can even state that you don't like it... but if you want to take it any further than making a statement... you want to do away with it... THEN GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY and go live somewhere else.... and you will find you don't get those kind of options that your pissing about. It's like this.... you can say anything you want about who is running the country or a policy or a law.... that's cool, i have no problem with that... Burn the flag and you should leave or die... because that represents your right to not like who is running the country or the policy etc. is that simple enough or did it go over your head? It's not about religion it is simply a well know symbol of good and honorable beliefs and actions. get over it.
 
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Well the country was founded on "christian" principles, but I guess you can call them religious if you want to.
If you had ever really read the bible then you would know that only God does Gods work... but don't feel bad there are plenty of... "religous types" who claim to read the bible, but miss the message too... you know little things like, not judging others and shit like that. Remember the bible wasn't written by God, it was written by men who thought they were being inspired by God. There was only one person who couldn't be decieved by the devil... and that is why king James had everything that he said printed in red... of course that's what I was told, I didn't get that with birth. A truer statement would be, men acting and claiming to be doing the work of God... but then again i have never heard anyone putting it quite the way you did either.

People then weren't much different than those today, only they use different terms today to justify being a fucked person and claiming innocence like, "that's business" or "I'm just doing my job."

It appears that unlike the majority of us who learned or were taught things, like what is right and wrong.... usually taught by your parents so you would know how to act... incredibly you were born with the knowledge. I am in aw and impressed, (jealous too) because i was not. Your not alone, I have heard guys make statements on here that no one taught them anything about fishing, they learned it all on their own. Which is complete and total bullshit... but it may explain why they are such fucked fishermen.

I don't think the settlers of the country were all that special or different,... I think you will find that there were more wars and killing done in the name of or influenced by religion... of course they didn't do it in the name of any religion, they just did it.

I also didn't know the Indians were slaves. Were they more or less than their counter parts? and how long were they used as slaves?

Your right about the ten commandments, in fact I have used that argument myself, they are just common sense rules... you don't want to have people lie to you.. of come by and fuck your ol' lady.. or steal from you.. and certainly not kill you..
Dam I wish everyone was born with that knowledge because a lot of people out there must have missed these rules by what I see today... oh wait a minute..., they thought they applied to everyone EXCEPT them, you couldn't do it to them but it is okay that they do it to you.

Since you never used "that guide book" are you sure what you think is good or bad is what we think is good or bad? After all the guy from the above paragraph thought it was right and it felt good when he stopped by your house and fucked your ol' lady.

Now relax, don't take it personal..,. I am making a joke about a serious issue.


BUT Before I forget... that information you were born with is a little off.... you are sworn in on the bible because the bible represents living by rules like the ten commandments where you don't lie, steal, and covet your brothers girlfriend.... and if you listen to the words, on most all of the others I have taken, you are swearing to serve or to uphold the laws or whatever it may be... but unless your swearing in for some religious shit, I have never heard someone swearing to serve the book.

This is a perfect example of the confusion people have with God and the bible in our government... one nation under God... in God we Trust... the ten commandments on the court house walls... THIS IS NOT RELIGION OR RELIGIOUS it is a reference to something that is known to represent right and wrong, good and bad... and that is all that it is.

Personally I like the system just like it is(as far as god and the bible are concerned).... you don't have to believe... and you don't have to like seeing god or a cross and you don't have to go to any church or believe in God, You can even state that you don't like it... but if you want to take it any further than making a statement... you want to do away with it... THEN GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY and go live somewhere else.... and you will find you don't get those kind of options that your pissing about. It's like this.... you can say anything you want about who is running the country or a policy or a law.... that's cool, i have no problem with that... Burn the flag and you should leave or die... because that represents your right to not like who is running the country or the policy etc. is that simple enough or did it go over your head? It's not about religion it is simply a well know symbol of good and honorable beliefs and actions. get over it.



Sorry...........I don't read any responses that are more that 3-4 sentences.
 
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J.C.

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Freedom of religion by country (Pew Research Center study, 2009). Light yellow: low restriction; red: very high restriction on freedom of religion


See any trends? In God we trust should not be on our money nor should children have to stand and pledge allegiance under God everyday. Freedom of religious persecution is for everyone including atheists.
 
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I don't think the settlers of the country were all that special or different,... I think you will find that there were more wars and killing done in the name of or influenced by religion... of course they didn't do it in the name of any religion, they just did it.


NO SO FAST...
Skip forward to around 26:33

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This is a perfect example of the confusion people have with God and the bible in our government... one nation under God... in God we Trust... the ten commandments on the court house walls... THIS IS NOT RELIGION OR RELIGIOUS it is a reference to something that is known to represent right and wrong, good and bad... and that is all that it is.

Personally I like the system just like it is(as far as god and the bible are concerned).... you don't have to believe... and you don't have to like seeing god or a cross and you don't have to go to any church or believe in God, You can even state that you don't like it... but if you want to take it any further than making a statement... you want to do away with it... THEN GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY and go live somewhere else.... and you will find you don't get those kind of options that your pissing about. It's like this.... you can say anything you want about who is running the country or a policy or a law.... that's cool, i have no problem with that... Burn the flag and you should leave... because that represents your right to not like who is running the country or the policy etc. is that simple enough or did it go over your head? It's not about religion it is simply a well know symbol of good and honorable beliefs and actions. get over it.

:appl:this part^
 
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kindafishy

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Well the country was founded on "christian" principles, but I guess you can call them religious if you want to.

by using the words "christian principles" they are religious right???? Christianity is a religion right? or do Christians have some secret agenda besides religion?


If you had ever really read the bible then you would know that only God does Gods work... but don't feel bad there are plenty of... "religous types" who claim to read the bible, but miss the message too... you know little things like, not judging others and shit like that.


any judgments of other people i make, good or bad, is based on my personal experience with those individuals.


Remember the bible wasn't written by God, it was written by men who thought they were being inspired by God. There was only one person who couldn't be decieved by the devil... and that is why king James had everything that he said printed in red... of course that's what I was told, I didn't get that with birth. A truer statement would be, men acting and claiming to be doing the work of God...

agreed, people use there own interpretation of religion to suit their own needs. good and bad

but then again i have never heard anyone putting it quite the way you did either.

ok

People then weren't much different than those today, only they use different terms today to justify being a fucked person and claiming innocence like, "that's business" or "I'm just doing my job."

agreed.

It appears that unlike the majority of us who learned or were taught things, like what is right and wrong.... usually taught by your parents so you would know how to act... incredibly you were born with the knowledge. I am in aw and impressed, (jealous too) because i was not.

born with it?? like some kind of divine prophet....no. i have made many mistakes along the way, and will continue to do so. and yes i'm gratefull to my parents for love and discipline they provided.


Your not alone, I have heard guys make statements on here that no one taught them anything about fishing, they learned it all on their own. Which is complete and total bullshit... but it may explain why they are such fucked fishermen.

i had very little instruction in regards to fishing, and i still suck (at catching anyways). some guys golf as a reason to drink and don't even care for the golf that much, i use fishing as my excuse to be on / in the water with friends and family, enjoying the ocean environment.



I don't think the settlers of the country were all that special or different,... I think you will find that there were more wars and killing done in the name of or influenced by religion... of course they didn't do it in the name of any religion, they just did it.

I also didn't know the Indians were slaves. Were they more or less than their counter parts? and how long were they used as slaves?

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/1992/issue35/3520.html "slave issue" second paragraph. i you can show me different please do. i have no stake in this.....just some info i found on a christian website.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Native_Americans_and_Christianity "killing in the name of religion" here again, i was not alive then, so didn't see it first hand. if you have evidence to the contrary, please present it.


Your right about the ten commandments, in fact I have used that argument myself, they are just common sense rules... you don't want to have people lie to you.. of come by and fuck your ol' lady.. or steal from you.. and certainly not kill you..
Dam I wish everyone was born with that knowledge because a lot of people out there must have missed these rules by what I see today... oh wait a minute..., they thought they applied to everyone EXCEPT them, you couldn't do it to them but it is okay that they do it to you.

agreed.

Since you never used "that guide book" are you sure what you think is good or bad is what we think is good or bad? After all the guy from the above paragraph thought it was right and it felt good when he stopped by your house and fucked your ol' lady.

Now relax, don't take it personal..,. I am making a joke about a serious issue.


agreed, you cant teach someone to have a conscious.


BUT Before I forget... that information you were born with is a little off.... you are sworn in on the bible because the bible represents living by rules like the ten commandments where you don't lie, steal, and covet your brothers girlfriend.... and if you listen to the words, on most all of the others I have taken, you are swearing to serve or to uphold the laws or whatever it may be... but unless your swearing in for some religious shit, I have never heard someone swearing to serve the book.

i would prefer they swear or "promise" to the public they "chose" to serve to act on their behalf. kind of like a contract that may be enforceable. swearing on a book containing religious principles is unenforceable because there is no standard since all religons are based on faith.

This is a perfect example of the confusion people have with God and the bible in our government... one nation under God... in God we Trust... the ten commandments on the court house walls... THIS IS NOT RELIGION OR RELIGIOUS it is a reference to something that is known to represent right and wrong, good and bad... and that is all that it is.

agreed. however off topic....this discussion was about a religious "ICON" you know ...the cross. and the governments financial support of it. i have no issue with a cross, star of david, Buddha, or any other "icon" ( sorry if anyones was left out) when displayed in the private sector.

Personally I like the system just like it is(as far as god and the bible are concerned).... you don't have to believe... and you don't have to like seeing god or a cross and you don't have to go to any church or believe in God, You can even state that you don't like it... but if you want to take it any further than making a statement... you want to do away with it... THEN GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY and go live somewhere else....

can't we all just get along? your sense of entitlement " get the fuck out of MY country"( its yours?) is part of the problem in this debate.


and you will find you don't get those kind of options that your pissing about. It's like this.... you can say anything you want about who is running the country or a policy or a law.... that's cool, i have no problem with that... Burn the flag and you should leave or die... because that represents your right to not like who is running the country or the policy etc. is that simple enough or did it go over your head? It's not about religion it is simply a well know symbol of good and honorable beliefs and get over it.actions.

the flag is not the cross and does not have any religous affiliation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=rel...X&ei=SoayUs__AY39oASEp4DwBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQsA

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"It's not about religion it is simply a well know symbol of good and honorable beliefs and get over it." the cross is not about religion????? well why not replace it with another symbol from the link above? the cross has everything to do with religion. my bet would be that a extreme muslims idea of a "symbol or icon" that represents " good and honorable beliefs" would look much different than yours.

i support no one religion, and i am very glad and proud to live in a country where its CITIZENS can make their own choices.
I DON NOT WANT THE CROSS REMOVED, I THINK ITS BEST TO LET PRIVATE OWNERSHIP TAKE OVER. ITS A WIN WIN. CROSS STAYS AND GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF IT.


i responded in the above quote and broke it apart responding to each portion individually.
 
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