It's a war memorial for American servicemen that fought under the American flag.....and the American flag is the only thing that should be honoring them as a group.
Unfortunately, the American flag offends some Americans too......[h=1]Petty tyrants across America try to ban the American flag[/h]
<!-- .entry-meta --> In May 2010, a FoxNews poll found that an astonishing 33% of people in the United States wanted the American flag to be banned. Some among that 33% are actually successful at getting the flag banned even when its someone else whos displaying the flag.
Here are some instances chronicled by FOTM:
- A shopping mall in Portland, Oregon, forced the manager of the childrens train to remove American flags that are used to decorate the train ride.
- An apartment complex in Springfield, Oregon, served an eviction notice to a Navy veteran because he put up an American flag in a common area of the complex on Navy Day.
- A neighborhood association banned a 90-year-old veteran from flying the American flag outside his suburban Virginia home.
- An Olive Garden restaurant in Oxford, Alabama, banned a woman from bringing an American flag into the restaurant for a planned Kiwanis Club meeting because the flag would disrupt the dining experience for all other guests.
- The principal of Denair Middle School in California ordered a 13-year-old boy to remove the flag from his bike for fear the flag of the United States of America would incite<del> racial incidents</del> Hispanic outrage.
- The Live Oaks High School in Morgan Hill, California, sent three students home for wearing American flag t-shirts to school on Cinco de Mayo because the t-shirts might provoke violence on the Mexican holiday.
If these examples don't make you MAD something is wrong with you ..If the American Flag offends you then GTFO
Agreed. This is just a few people who want to be noticed. The guy who originally started the lawsuit is dead yet the lawyers keep going.
Actually this ruling is a good thing. The last time this went to the supreme court they refused to hear it. They sent it back to the circuit court judge. For another try at a remedy. The Judge said the 9th circuit gave him no choice with their decision and ordered it down. Then he stayed the order so the appeal could once again go back to the U.S. Supreme court and now they will rule on it. Many a war monument has been upheld by the supreme court lately and this one will too. (my humble opinion of course, I have been wrong in the past).
The constitution never mentions separation of church and state. It says congress shall make no law regarding the ESTABLISHMENT of religion. (or something like that) No national religion is what they were aiming for. No "church of the united states" like there was the church of England. You are free to worship as you see fit and government shouldn't get in your way.
This whole issue can be summed up by the words of Seargant Hulka..........LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS,!!!!!!
There is a Shinto bell at the end of Shelter island on government land. How come no one has asked for that to come down?
Why does it always feel like it's always the few with possibly too much time on their hands who desire to make changes that affect the many just to prove a point. Basically accomplishing little other than thumping their chests & wagging a finger or two....?
"A Lesson in Life"A brief history lesson.
At the time when the US Constitution was in the process of being ratified, there was already a severe divide growing among the colonies over the subject of slavery. The authors of the Constitution were shrewd. They knew that if they included language critical of slavery or suggesting that it would be abolished, there would be no hope for unification of the colonies or the formation of the republic they envisioned. Slave owners at the time were wealthy men with real political power, so the issue had to be handled with kid gloves.
In 1807, the United States Congress, acting on Jefferson's request, passed the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves. Jefferson signed the act and it went into effect January 1, 1808, the EARLIEST DATE PERMITTED by the United States Constitution for any law regulating slavery. This was their sneak attack and the first major step towards abolition. The act equated slave importation or exportation with Piracy, which was punishable by death.
Jefferson himself was a slave owner, this is true (via inheritance from his late wife's family). But his views on slavery were complex, and he opposed the practice, especially later in his life. This is evidenced by his relationship with Sally Hemings as well as the actions he took as president to criminalize the practice of slavery.
I know it's hip and cool these days to bash the founders as racists, but unfortunately it's such an oversimplification that it's not even accurate. First of all, not all slaves were black, and not all slave owners were white. Look a little closer, and you will see that the founders were fighting an uphill battle against a deeply entrenched culture. Their goal was to establish a new form of government, never before seen in history, that enshrined and protected the Natural Rights of all men. This was a revolutionary idea and they (more or less) succeeded!
I'd like to see any of you try accomplishing something like that today. What did you do this morning to fight against the institution of slavery?
Are you even aware of the types of slavery that existed back then, or the types of slavery that exist today
"A Lesson in Life"
Seem's you have plenty of free time on your hand's my friend , judging from the effort you have put into this post. Also looks like your a pretty hard core God Guy & that's cool.You seem to take great satisfaction in feeling somewhat superior over others ... good for you. I on the other hand am agnostic.. humility is a lesson I have learned through 56 years of living ( Pretty sure Humility is mentioned the Bible somewhere.... ) Guess I'm not the type that gets satisfaction from trying to impress others by beating others into submission to prove a point. Pretty sure I'm on the right track. Having said that I want to thank you for "Another Lesson in Life"
Don't waste your time. If you don't agree with him or see what he see's he will call you a socialist, then when you respond your post will be erased by the moderator for being too "personal."
My only issue is that if your don't believe in God, or Christianity, then the cross should mean nothing more that being 2 pieces of wood, placed together at a right angle, yes? If you are driving down the road, and see a cross and some flowers placed on the edge, do you think "Oh shit, someone is trying to force feed me religion", or do you think "Damn, pretty sad, someone must have died there, and it's a tribute"? Just like the Mt. Soledad cross. Do you really think atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, etc., drive by there, and have some spastic body reaction to that cross? Do they go into convulsions, have to call 911? No, they don't. It's nothing more than someone who gets off being a thorn in someone else's side. It's not physically hurting anyone.
It reminds me of all those frivolous lawsuits that people file just to make $$$$ or a name for themselves. Take the one guy and his lawyers that serve lawsuits against businesses en masse for violating the ADA and being under code. They tried it a few years ago against basically every business in Julian, citing everything from width of doors, railing heights and ramps, etc. Well you know what, they found out that the one guy named as a plaintiff, had never set foot in any of those stores. He had no stake in it at all, just splitting their take with the lawyers Same with this cross. If you don't like it, look the other way........
As with so many things in life, if people just chilled the $(%* out, things would be so much better.......
10-4 Your absolutely correct..I'm not much of a "Key Board Worrier " Like your point of view !Don't waste your time. If you don't agree with him or see what he see's he will call you a socialist, then when you respond your post will be erased by the moderator for being too "personal."
Don't feel inferior at all .. Just reconfirmed as to where I don't want to at this point in my life. Being agnostic has nothing to do with being godless ... I'm simply not a believer in "Western Religion" But thanks for your 2 cents.if you feel inferior that all on you...I'm agnostic too but relish the heritage that gave us a country where freedom from religion as established by the government is as important
as freedom to let our heritage and history be left alone from future government intrusion.when that cross was established there was no out cry from the godless.....why do those that are godless today want to rewrite our history?If you don't want future crosses erected on government land fine fight your battle...but let history be our true history not one rewritten by the whims of the day.
That path may someday visit what you hold dear.