Night fishing for the big guys

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  1. dtf

    dtf Well-Known "Member"

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    Trying to make my tackle box heaver. Would like to add some 250g flat fall/fall flat jigs. What colors have you had good results (even a nibble) with? All should be the glow type I believe. Thanks and paypal thanks you.
     
  2. AKSalmon

    AKSalmon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    White/Yellow Glow. White/Yellow Glow. And White/Yellow Glow.
     
  3. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Have you tried turning them over? Fish Yellow/White/Glow. :)
     
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  4. ReelDealAngler

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    If you fish them on the larger grade YFT I would change out the stock hooks! Lots of better options out there with regards to better/stronger hooks.
    G
     
  5. dtf

    dtf Well-Known "Member"

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    For sure, stock hooks are junk.
     
  6. AKSalmon

    AKSalmon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    The stock hooks are fine if you fish yellow/white/glow because all you will catch are little skippies. You need to fish white/yellow/glow to get the big ones. And do be sure to change the hooks if you fish this way.
     
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    So, we were at Clipperton, I was on the RP, RR3 right beside us.
    I'm thinking, we got this.
    We had the very first glow in the dark jigs.
    They had none. All they had were traditional blue/ white, or white, scrambled egg types.
    And it was very good jig fishing.
    1st night, RR3 caught 21 fish, we had 23.
    2nd night, they had 24, we had 21.
    3rd night, we each had 22.

    You will never convince me glow in the dark makes a huge difference.
     
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    Here in the gulf I never go on a tuna trip except during a new moon. Even with zero moonlight I've never been able to tell a difference catching blackfin tuna with glow vs a white or chrome jig. I would expect yft wouldn't be too different.
     
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    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Pink glow halo butterfly jigs in the 230-300 gram sizes . it's all about being in the right zone when the fish are biting .
     
  10. JohnTFT

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    What can make a huge difference is a glow source on the line. Duralite or glow stick.

    On a full moon bright moon, put the light source close to the jig or bait. Dark night further away from the bait or jig.

    Its more about silhouette than glow.
     
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    No such thing as a glow jig back in the 90's. I heard the regular old stock PL-68's got bit pretty good.....
     
  12. dtf

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    So your preference is the butterfly over the flat fall?? Are they so similar that there's not enough difference to matter?
     
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    John you stick a glow stick on above the Jig. A small one for night blues or a big one I've done well with the pl68. My favorite has done well by me. It dosent glow so hot anymore but the tunas still like it.
     
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    Joe,

    Those little Duralites. They are super bright and you can rubber band them in line. I am not so sold on glow jigs but I know what lights can do on the line.

    Sheepshead bay style!!
     
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    Ok I will definitely try this November. I always wonder why a big hammered Jig wouldn't do well. I do think it would be rough attempting that with big gear.
     
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    Only thing about the flat fall is sharks will eat them too. Moving a jig fast does have its advantages.
     
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    I think when the fish are on squid the glow jig works better (some squid actually do glow so perhaps its a match the hatch thing). Also know that commercial swordfish fisherman use glow lights when fishing them at night in deep water and these guys fish for living so they generally tend to use what works best. Squid are interesting creatures and like a lot of species in the ocean we don't know all that much about them: http://www.squid-world.com/facts-about-squids/

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    The bluefin like the glow better when they are feeding on Squid. Just ask all those people who were fishing the Tanner Bank the last couple of months.
     
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    Yeah, everybody said I wouldn't get bit unless I used glow in the dark sinkers.
    Obviously, the bluefin didn't get that memo, because I did fine with no glow.
     
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    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    As a jig first kind of guy, The glow seems to sometimes work better at times(at night)
    At other times it doesnt matter.
    then many times- nothing works.

    The pink glow stuff works great on the big fish.

    One of my favorite jigs is the FCL LABO SL jig that jignpop sells .
    comes in 230gr and 270 gram. The pink wave halo glow is great. Not cheap, $48 a pop, but if you dig this stuff then that would be my number 1 jig.
    http://www.jignpop.com/fcllabo-sl-slow-jig-120-270g/

    I am also doing some experimental glow stuff on JRI8's and PL68's for my feb trip.

    One of the issues with these two jigs is the glow that is used. They seem to wear out fast and fade if exposed to sunlight quickly.
    Had a trip last year where one of them lost almost all its glow after day 1.

    Got some crazy glow paint that My friend Matt is going to resurface my jri 8's and pl 68's with(as well as some butterfly jigs) . Glow lasts for hours and lights up a house when exposed to UV light.
    Going to do some in various colors too. There is a pink glow that is pretty crazy.

    Once again - this isnt for everyone. Many of the long range guys dont like jigging with the heavy outfits too much and only do it as a last resort thing. Those 50's and xxxh rods weigh 2 tons.

    But , if you really like this jigging stuff , there is nothing better when you get bit (except poppers) .

    It's about using what has always worked but always be adaptable for change and new techniques, if it shows advantages in certain situations.

    My goal jigging is always:
    maximize my bites + hook/land ratio + being in the zone the longest time (while having fun always)
     

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