New to LP baitcasters, looking for recommendations

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    I've never really considered LP baitcasters previously, but I've been seeing them on every trip, killing fish so I'm looking for recommendations on a good setup. I'm mostly going to be using it for throwing jigs (colt snipers, surface iron, etc) on an 8ft, maybe 8ft 6in rod.

    Looks like the komodo 463P and Lexa HD 400 are some good options. Seems like 50# braid to the top with a short heavy mono/fluoro are typical setups. I'm guessing using a longer mono top shot is not doable since the splice knot may not go thru the level wind guide very well?

    Anyways, looking for some recommendations on rod and reel. Seen a lot of people using Okuma SST or PCH H rods. Maybe a Daiwa Proteus?

    Thanks for the help.
     
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    Lexa/TranX/Komodo are all good!
     
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    Was fishing next to a guy with a Tranx 500 this last weekend. Looked at it and compared it to the Okuma Catalina CT-25L that I was fishing and the two were comparable in height profile; Tranx's width and depth were both longer...was NOT seeing the advantage from physical dimensions.

    Tranx retrieve rate obviously much higher than the Catalina, but if comparing to a Fathom 25N instead, the difference drops down to only 3" more in Tranx's favor. Is this or something else the Tranx has worth the extra $280? Something to consider...

    The splice knot with top shot issue is dependent on the knot used. If going with hollow core main or hollow core connection, the top shot length may not be an issue at all.
     
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    I definitely agree with the question regarding is it really worth it, which is why I hadn't considered a LP baitcaster up until now. Seems like they've gotten so popular that there's gotta be a lot of benefit/convenience to purchasing one. I like the idea of the castability and convenience of the LW for throwing jigs.
     
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    Yes, those are definitely the biggest PROS to using the LP baitcasters. The other is a lighter spool, which makes casting light bait (small anchovies) easier.

    I've never used Tranx. Their price point is off-putting to me, but lots of people like them. If you are buying it to throw iron, I would say the Lexa 400HD would serve pretty much all of your needs. Plus it has Stainless gearing and a lower price point than Tranx.

    Don't sleep on the Komodo 463. It may not cast quite as far as Lexa (Komodo level wind does not disengage during cast), but it is a BEAST, and the gears are even more impressive than Lexa, plus better drag. Again, price point is lower than Tranx.

    I use 65lb braid, then a 6' leader of 30-50lb Mono for throwing jigs. No long top shot necessary, IMO.
     
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    Seems like both options from Okuma and Daiwa would work well. I definitely like the look of the Lexa more than the komodo, but seems like Okuma has the superior customer service, should any issues arise. I've also read of some concerns with the meds Lexa relayed to corrosion/seizing and possibly the free spool accidentally engaging while casting. Any truth to these?

    With the 6' leader, I'm guessing the splice knot never goes thru the LW guide? Also, what rod are you using?
     
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    I use the Lexa 400, Lexa 400HD and TranX 500 HG's for throwing surface iron. I like the external mag spool control on the Lexa's. Set it about a 7 and throwing 45's is pretty much hands free. Just stop the spool on the splash with your thumb. The Lexa's have 50# spectra and the TranX's have 65# on one and 80# Maxcuatro on the other. I haven't had problems with reel going into gear on the cast on any of them.
     
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    Do you use a short mono or fluoro leader with the braid? Also, what rod do you have those reels paired with?
     
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    I use a 3-4' mono leader. I use a Phenix psw909xhj, 809xhj or 869h/809h for throwing surface irons. The 869h/809h for smaller iron and hardbaits. I use the 909xhj and 809xhj for bombs too.
     
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    I'm a sucker for Okuma rods. I have my Komodo 463 on a PCH 7'6" Heavy. I use that combo for live bait at the Coronado islands. I have my Lexa 400HD on an 8'6" SCT Inshore rod XH for throwing light iron to 3oz. I also have a Torium 30 on a PCH 8' XH for throwing heavy iron.
     
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    If you decide to pull the trigger, read and DO the "pre-service" maintenance that John D. Tuttle shows...

    ...for the Lexa (ignore the corrosion removal sections...well, maybe just read as a cautionary tale):
    https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=14138.0

    ...for the Tranx:
    https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17424.0

    ...or for the Komodo:
    https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17311.0

    Maybe a lot of effort to commit to for a brand new reel BUT the "ounce of prevention" will pay off in the long run.

    Good luck with whatever choice made.
     
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    Appreciate the great info and links! That hole on the Lexa seems rather concerning for saltwater intrusion...
     
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    Love my Komodos. They are just about as tough as it gets.
    No reel love for the Lexa 400 I bought around the same time. Yes they feel smoother than the Komodo out of the box. I think that is about as far as the comparison goes. Have had issues with it not going into gear....then I had the bearing in the knob fail this weekend. Thankfully was not hooked up at the time. IMO they are just not made as well as the Komodo . Recently had problems with another Diawa reel that was almost new as well. I think some of this is a quality related problem. Based on my experiences Okuma definitely gets my business for the foreseeable future.
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    The Lexa 400 HD (for Heavy Duty?) is better than the other Lexa models. Capacity is OK, retrieve rate is very good, and it is a smooth operating excellent caster. The non-HD Lexa models seem to need more maintenance, so I would stay away from those. If you shop around a little bit, you should be able to get an HD in the low $200 or even around $200. This may be OK or not depending on your budget. In any case, it is much cheaper than the Tranx.

    Using a 40-50 lb braid may work well, with the 40 lb providing about 300 yards of line. A short leader (4 or 5 ft) is all you need in this set up.

    Rod length and action is a rather personal matter, and 8' is definitely a popular and good length these days, except when targeting bigger blue fin tuna or something in that class, you will be better off with a 7' or 6.5'. Whatever feels good in your hands when you are shopping, in terms of rod action, weight, handle type, etc... is what one should get. But it is wise to stay with the recognized names: UC, Calstar, Seeker, and a few others.
     
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    Thanks for all the inputs! Very insightful and much appreciated.

    I'm now leaning towards the komodo 463P. Just gotta shop around for a good deal.

    Need to decide on a good rod to pair it up with. The UC swimbait fanatic looks fantastic but at a pretty big price premium. Maybe the Okuma PCH 8' or a Daiwa proteus would be a good match at a good price point. Seems like a toss up between an H (usually 20-50) and an XH (usually 30-60) rating. I just want the lightlig possible rod with good backbone in case fish in the 50# class swim thru.
     
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    Check out the Phenix axis line. Nice and light setup and has the backbone when hooked up. Have my axis with a daiwa 400 hd. Great for school size yellowfin poppers.
     
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    Which model are you using?
     
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    I’ll have to check when I get home. I know it’s either 9 foot 6 or 9. Go pull on some. I like longer rods for cattle boat fishing.
     
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    If you're looking at PCH 8', I would recommend H instead of XH. XH is pretty stiff for throwing iron unless you throw heavy iron. The H is great from personal experience. Loads up nice, and still good power for the occasional 50# model.
     
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    I ended up getting the komodo 463P and the UC swimbait fanatic 711H. It was quite a premium to get the UC, so hopefully it's well worth it! One thing I noticed with the rod is the fore grip is extremely short. Hopefully that doesn't get uncomfortable after pulling on fish for awhile.
     

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