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I would look farther up the coast. I know there’s always a few for sale up here near SB county.
i saw one in SB that was a 27 and some guy made it into 29. Looks good but has Evinrudes on the back- no thanks. He's never going to sell it with those boat anchors on the back
 
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Adding onto that aswell most them are 1/1 unlike Parker’s which are
i saw one in SB that was a 27 and some guy made it into 29. Looks good but has Evinrudes on the back- no thanks. He's never going to sell it with those boat anchors on the back
lol yea he might as well just sell the hull and make a chunk of dough. Maybe try and get rid of those separately.
 
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Just noticed on Radon website that the signature series he makes now has hull change to help with head seas. That was always the downside to a Radon. Anyone have any seat time in one of these new hull designs? Also, look at that price list... wow, 202k for bare bones boat........
 
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Just noticed on Radon website that the signature series he makes now has hull change to help with head seas. That was always the downside to a Radon. Anyone have any seat time in one of these new hull designs? Also, look at that price list... wow, 202k for bare bones boat........
$202k (26') w/o engines, any electronics, a trailer...you'd be >$300k by the time it's all put together.
 
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Just noticed on Radon website that the signature series he makes now has hull change to help with head seas. That was always the downside to a Radon. Anyone have any seat time in one of these new hull designs? Also, look at that price list... wow, 202k for bare bones boat........

I have a 29 with the newer design, definitely handles a heading sea better than the older hull designs which I have spent alot of time on.

You keep hammering the price of a Radon. These are all custom built boats specific to each owners requirements, using higher quality materials than most "production boats" that are screwed and glued together. They don't compare to most production boats in pricing, they also don't compare to most production boats in seakeeping ability. There's a reason these boats are highly respected for their ability to handle heavy seas in CA and Hawaii....part of that confidence is the design, another part is the construction.

If you think $300k is expensive for a 26ft boat then spend some time at the boat show in FL and you'll see it gets much worse. You'll drop well over 300k for a 26ft boat that doesn't even have a pilothouse.
 
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LOL, " higher quality materials"????? The boats are made out of wood and fiberglass. If anything they are behind the times. I'll give a comparison - a brand new Parker 2520 with a single yamaha 300 bare bones is 150k. A Radon bare bones without any motors or anything is 202k. I'm sorry, they are a great boat but don't try to pull the wool over peoples eyes- they are way overpriced. You are paying for a name. Theres a reason why you see Parkers all over the place and you rarely see Radons. Its not because of the area, its because of price and price only. I know Radons handle seas well, so does Parker, Farallon, Steiger and many others. Radons pound into swell just like the rest of them so sorry I'm not seeing the price is worth the boat and it appears that everyone else is in the same boat because you dont see them around. I could see maybe, just maybe 40k higher in price but 100+ k- you're delusional
 
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I have a Parker 2520 that I love and have spent a solid amount of time on Radons, Andersons, Davis and many others. The Parker and all the other production boats I've been on are a significant step down from a Radon.

Radon (and others) use a completely different process, resins, and other materials than production boats. Yes, both use fiberglass, wood, etc but the end result and costs associated with the builds are completely different. Is a Radon more expensive, yes. Is a Radon overpriced, not at all.

You see a lot more Hondas than Mercedes on the road too, but that doesn't mean that the Mercedes is overpriced or a bad car, just more than most need or can afford.
 
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I have a Parker 2520 that I love and have spent a solid amount of time on Radons, Andersons, Davis and many others. The Parker and all the other production boats I've been on are a significant step down from a Radon.

Radon (and others) use a completely different process, resins, and other materials than production boats. Yes, both use fiberglass, wood, etc but the end result and costs associated with the builds are completely different. Is a Radon more expensive, yes. Is a Radon overpriced, not at all.

You see a lot more Hondas than Mercedes on the road too, but that doesn't mean that the Mercedes is overpriced or a bad car, just more than most need or can afford.
Funny you give Mercedes as an example. I am a master Mercedes tech for 26 years now and there are many things that are better on a Honda than on a Mercedes. I have seen the fit and fitment on Parker and Radon and I dont see a huge difference. The Radons have a great hull for going down hill. Ok thats great, how often are you going down hill vs uphill. Radons rock back and forth badly while drifting. So like I said before, they are a nice boat but way overpriced for what they are. The cabin layouts that I have seen are not any better than Parker if not worse- not much room. Access from deck to bow is very limited on most Radons. Radons were made for commercial urchin and divers, not fisherman. I find the Parker boats and Steiger boats and Farallons to be much better fishing platforms. At least comparing to the older style Radons. Now maybe the newer ones are different? As far as materials and resins, I dont see that playing much effect in this debate- surely not 100k worth of difference there. I see plenty of Radons being torn up and rebuilt on the internet. A boat like Steiger is 100% composite materials- I think the transome has some wood in it. The hull has lifetime warranty. They too are 100k cheaper. When you buy a Radon your paying the extra money for the name and a slower production run. Most people dont wait 2 years to get a boat once ordered. Radon caters to a few rich people, not the average guy like me. He makes fewer boats with fewer people so he has to charge more money to make up the costs.
 
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LOL, " higher quality materials"????? The boats are made out of wood and fiberglass. If anything they are behind the times. I'll give a comparison - a brand new Parker 2520 with a single yamaha 300 bare bones is 150k. A Radon bare bones without any motors or anything is 202k.

Yes higher quality materials...it starts with using ISO resin instead of Polyester resin and goes from there...literally at the foundation of the build, read up on it and educate yourself big difference in cost and quality. You keep trying to compare a Radon to a Parker....apples and oranges, in build quality and in price.


The Radons have a great hull for going down hill. Ok thats great, how often are you going down hill vs uphill. Radons rock back and forth badly while drifting.

I'm curious how many Radon's you've actually been on to make these claims or you just repeating stuff you've read.

I have a Parker 2520 that I love and have spent a solid amount of time on Radons, Andersons, Davis and many others. The Parker and all the other production boats I've been on are a significant step down from a Radon.

Radon (and others) use a completely different process, resins, and other materials than production boats. Yes, both use fiberglass, wood, etc but the end result and costs associated with the builds are completely different. Is a Radon more expensive, yes. Is a Radon overpriced, not at all.

Here you have a guy that owns a Parker and been on a a bunch of Radons and Andersons literally saying they're a "significant step down from a Radon" and you still argue his point.

Just bc you think Don's boats are expensive doesn't mean you should knock his brand and business. And it's pretty obvious there's a disconnect....Don hasn't made a boat for an urchin diver in probably 30 years. The last few boats I saw Don build for "commercial fisherman" were for 6 pack captains, one in Alaska and one in San Francisco. Most of his builds are for hardcore fishermen and gov't agency. How many fish holds are in the deck of a 25 Parker?
 
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    Do the Radon hatch channels leak when hosing down the deck? Send a pic of the fish hold hatch - looking to see if the channels are narrow and tend to leak like some complain about.
     
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    Do the Radon hatch channels leak when hosing down the deck? Send a pic of the fish hold hatch - looking to see if the channels are narrow and tend to leak like some complain about.
    No…the hatch coamings are wide and have a drain system that drains the water overboard. Here’s one from my buddy’s 26ft Radon. Insulated fish hold within the fish hold.

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    I live in Santa Barbara, you throw a stick in the harbor and pretty much hit a radon.
    In general you leave in the morning when the ocean is fairly calm going uphill. Wind comes up in the afternoon and coming home down hill. Hard to beat that hull for fishing here especially commercial Damm fine boat but not for everyone.
     
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    No…the hatch coamings are wide and have a drain system that drains the water overboard. Here’s one from my buddy’s 26ft Radon. Insulated fish hold within the fish hold.

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    You can tell just by that fishhold hatch that its low quality. Most hatches I have seen from Radon are just a formed box with a lip and a lid that is just laid over it. no hinges or latches.
    For the Radon guys, please post pics of your fish holds and deck and inside the cabin. Please show us what 300k looks like.
     
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    Why? To appease some dickhead that hates the boat anyways??? Seriously if you have nothing to actually add to a discussion about a boat (it’s obvious you have nothing except the typical talking points) you might as well just fuck off out of the conversation. You aren’t charming, interesting, or even right.
     
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    No…the hatch coamings are wide and have a drain system that drains the water overboard. Here’s one from my buddy’s 26ft Radon. Insulated fish hold within the fish hold.

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    That looks like a nice hatch channel and would keep water out - quality for sure.
     
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    Why? To appease some dickhead that hates the boat anyways??? Seriously if you have nothing to actually add to a discussion about a boat (it’s obvious you have nothing except the typical talking points) you might as well just fuck off out of the conversation. You aren’t charming, interesting, or even right.

    Exactly. Some dude butt hurt bc he’s priced out of a boat so he tries to throw shade on it. It's very obvious he has never even been on one and just regurgitating stuff he's read online...

    The Keyboard Captain!

    A Parker or Steiger should be perfect for this guy.
     
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    I was thinking this is more his speed

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    You know, since it can obviously handle a head sea.

    Or maybe a Bayliner...oh wait, I have one of those...and it has 2 fish boxes...with proper coaming and gutter drains...and bottom drains plumbed to a macerator pump.
    And it goes uphill and downhill.

    Sounds lIke it's better than a Parker.
     
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    Such an awesome build. I know nothing about boat building. How is the wheel house secured to the deck?

    Pulled this quote from another thread about a Radon on here UJ posted a few weeks ago....this is probably the best sentence he contributed to BD....definitely the most accurate.
     
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    Yeah I saw a few of his opinions on Shane and Casey’s 32. It was totally obvious he has no idea WTF he’s taking about. I’ve walked the deck of that boat, it’s absolutely badass
     
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    LOL, " higher quality materials"????? The boats are made out of wood and fiberglass. If anything they are behind the times. I'll give a comparison - a brand new Parker 2520 with a single yamaha 300 bare bones is 150k. A Radon bare bones without any motors or anything is 202k. I'm sorry, they are a great boat but don't try to pull the wool over peoples eyes- they are way overpriced. You are paying for a name. Theres a reason why you see Parkers all over the place and you rarely see Radons. Its not because of the area, its because of price and price only. I know Radons handle seas well, so does Parker, Farallon, Steiger and many others. Radons pound into swell just like the rest of them so sorry I'm not seeing the price is worth the boat and it appears that everyone else is in the same boat because you dont see them around. I could see maybe, just maybe 40k higher in price but 100+ k- you're delusional
    you truly have no idea what you are talking about. it's fine if they are out of your price range but to even utter parker and radon as though they were in the same weight class is just hilarious. a patek is made of the same material as a tag heuer, that's just a silly, uninformed comparison.
     
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    Pulled this quote from another thread about a Radon on here UJ posted a few weeks ago....this is probably the best sentence he contributed to BD....definitely the most accurate.
    So all you guys build boats and are professional boat builders? GTFOH. Just because I don't build boats doesn't mean I don't know what a good hatch and quality is supposed to look like. I have a Cayman 226 and my hatches are 10x better than that hatch posted. Just look at the crappy double sided tape seal on the lid and there are no latches or even hinges that I can see. No wonder people say they leak. Please show me all the quality latches and cabin layouts in your Radons. Or are you all just a bunch of nut riding Radon wannabees?

    BTW- I never said Radon are bad boats. I said they are good boats but I dont see how they can justify the 100k price above other boats in the same class. Sorry but all you got is a boat that handles well down swell. Big freaking deal, that to me isn't worth 100k. I can buy a Parker or Steiger and have an extra 100k in my bank for years and years worth of gas money. That makes sense to me. I could see buying a used Davis rock Harbor. I think Davis did a better job with fit and finish and amenities.

    Still waiting for the pics from all you Radon owners...........................
     
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