New Private Boat Fisher, Advice Welcome

Discussion in 'Southern CA Private Boater Offshore Trip Planning' started by Skraw, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    Hey Everyone. First time poster, long time fan of the forum. Looking for some insight and advice here if anyone is willing to give it. I've been fishing saltwater since I was a kid. I deck-handed back in high school for a few years out of Dana Wharf and have been on countless cattleboat trips both day and long range. I consider myself a relatively accomplished fisherman (when on a cattleboat).

    Last year I bought a 23' fishing boat with a buddy (fixer upper) and am finally ready to actually start fishing it, now that it's sea worthy. As we started planning our first full day trip, I realized something... I know absolutely nothing about where to fish. Without a knowledgeable captain leading the trip, I am literally starting from scratch. I never realized how un-knowledgeable I was on my own. I just took for granted that the captain would take me to biting fish.

    I guess what I'm looking for is some rough guidance about where to head to find fish. I sort of have a basic handle on calicos and local stuff. But I have no idea where to head for yellows & other larger game fish besides the Islands. Even then, I wouldn't know where to start exactly.

    Now, I'm not asking for any secret spots or trying to take advantage of someone else's hard work finding fishing spots. I'm just wondering if there are any well known areas I should hit first. I'd love to load in a few spots to my chartplotter. As of now I'd just head out of the harbor and drive aimlessly, cold and alone, crying in the fetal position because I didn't know where to go. :( Any info is welcomed! Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Hismosa

    Hismosa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Fish dope is a good starting point to get you in the right direction
     
  3. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    Looks like an awesome service. Thanks for sending!
     
  4. plj46

    plj46 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Everywhere seems to be a "well known" area if you live in Socal.I'm not suggesting you follow other boats around but if it's crowded with boats there's a reason for it.
     
  5. FishinMcNuggets

    FishinMcNuggets Fishin fo' Nutrition!

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    Between Two and 20 Fathoms, by Mark Wisch
     
  6. polfishski

    polfishski Well-Known "Member"

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    Get a map from the local tackle store or look on line. Many have spots and GPS numbers for them. If you have a fish finder start really paying attention to it in relation to what is going on around and under your boat it will help you to learn it a bit quicker. Look at your meter while on the ramp. That will show you what hard bottom is as you leave the marina that should show you the soft bottom. Make a mental note of both then think like a fish and go from there. The book mentioned above is a great source too.
     
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  7. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    Great advice, thanks everyone.
     
  8. Arima-bob

    Arima-bob pescadore n jäger

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    Do what I do and head south west and look for birds. Jumping fish help too!

    On a serious note, buy a subscription to fish dope. That would be your greatest tool to start with.
     
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  9. apogee

    apogee My name is Apogee and I am a Squidaholic

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    Be the fish.....I have Fish Dope but it mainly shows me how to avoid the parking lots. Learn about structure be it actual or interpolated like a temp break. Get a great big beautiful through hull water temp gauge, and use it. It and a chart plotter are your friends..Birds cannot keep a secret. The absence of birds tells a story as well as the type of birds you see. Ornithology as well as ichthyology are tools of the trade.....Beer is good.....Ap
     
  10. KID CREOLE

    KID CREOLE I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Get comfortable launching your boat and retrieving it.
    Learn to anchor your boat consistently
    Understand that fish bite better on conditions, you gotta learn that
     
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  11. KID CREOLE

    KID CREOLE I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    fishspot1.jpg Get this
     
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  12. Fishingguy

    Fishingguy I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Get both of Mark Wischs' Books. Check out his store at pacific edge tackle in huntington beach. Sign up for fish dope. These are hUGE shortcuts that I wish i had when i started…..
     
  13. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    Yeah fish dope looks interesting for sure. I'll have to check that out. Such great advice here. Thanks all.
     
  14. Arima-bob

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    Use fish dope as a tool. It's not perfect, but helpful especially if your a newby. Also use tempbreak.com and a couple good weather sites. I like FishWeather myself.
     
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  15. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    Yes weather readings is a big deal for me. Safety first. So I know there's the weather report I can listen to on my vhf. Is fishweather better? How is the free version?
     
  16. Arima-bob

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    You can listen to the vhf, but it takes a while to get a report for a specific area.

    As for FishWeather, I use the free version and it's usually good. I haven't heard of any site that is always spot on. They all pretty much get their information from NOAA.
     
  17. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    So it looks like fishweather doesn't give me details on swell size. Any apps or websites that are handy for forecasted weather WITH swell info?
     
  18. Skraw

    Skraw Newbie

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    So it looks like fishweather doesn't give me details on swell size. Any apps or websites that are handy for forecasted weather WITH swell info?
     
  19. MeloStorm

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    Not sure If it will post correctly, but I like to use this one. You can tailor it to your needs or specific areas. Has worked pretty good for me. None of them are spot on keep that in mind.

    https://www.wunderground.com/MAR/PZ/655.html
     
  20. Arima-bob

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    It does show swell height and intervals. If you are using a phone, turn it sideways or scroll down.

    Look at the blue, currently it's a little bumpy out there.

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  21. RideHPD

    RideHPD Enthusiastic Idiot Rookie

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    https://www.bdoutdoors.com/how-catch-yellowtail-private-boat/

    I just got into fishing last year and the biggest help were the articles on BD, like the one above. Erik and the others have spent a lot of time putting this all in words, and it helped me immensely. The site search and google are your friends for finding more articles.

    If you also have the money Dave Hanson will go out on your boat with you and teach you everything you need to know. You may find the fish, but without knowing how to position your boat, how to take care of your bait, etc. you may not get bit and having someone right with you to show you whatever you may have missed while deckhanding would be very helpful.
     

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