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    Brass is heavier then steel. To even get brass as strong as steel, you need a considerably bigger gear. The Lexa HD series had stainless. The OG gray models are Brass as well. I think it’s just accepting that no one can pull hard enough on these reels to damage the gears. I will say that brass and brass is less then ideal, a stainless pinion would have been pretty sick.
    You are right , brass is heavier. Btw the pinion gear on this reel is stainless according to Daiwa website
    caught multiple 50lb bluefin from field testing. they seem legit. with that wider level wind, I'm sure they will cast a bit farther too!
    That's what we want to hear, the og Lexa 400 is a work horse, this reel should be better.
     
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    There are not a big market for them to develope such a reel since most people fishing musky/pike is doing fine with the lexa 400 and many reel of that size (Beast, Fathom BC, Komodo) the only market left is West Coast style fishing for Tuna/Yellowtail (not a big market since a lot of people can learn to cast with the open face reel). And would you pay $400/$450 for a 500 size Lexa?


    Yes, I would pay for a reel that had a bit more beef. My saltiga 40 has what it takes to land 90#+ tuna and has done it. I know guys that have l killed 100# on the Lexa 400. Just looking for the next level. The tranx was plastic crap.
     
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    really wish they made a 500 size Lexa, I would have loved to at least see a 500 in their new tw lineup, that would be killer. not sure why they haven't yet. A lexa 500 tw would look sick.
     
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    No stainless steel gear, bummer. Hoping they come out with a HD version with a steel gear. Still using my blue HD's and fairly happy with them.
     
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    No stainless steel gear, bummer. Hoping they come out with a HD version with a steel gear. Still using my blue HD's and fairly happy with them.
    The Daiwa Saltiga ( Daiwa's flagship reel) using the brass gear with no complain what so ever, may be that's the reason they ditched the ss gear to save cost.
     
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    No stainless steel gear, bummer. Hoping they come out with a HD version with a steel gear. Still using my blue HD's and fairly happy with them.
    brass really isn't a problem when a reel has good bearings. Daiwa has some of the best reel bearings that hold up really well, also daiwa uses what seems to be a higher grade brass, the Penn fathom star drags too. I would worry more about the pinion gear since it takes more abuse.
    My saltiga SD has full brass and not a problem.
    The new lexas seem pretty legit, multiple 100lb tuna caught on them in field testing.
     
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    The Daiwa Saltiga ( Daiwa's flagship reel) using the brass gear with no complain what so ever, may be that's the reason they ditched the ss gear to save cost.

    brass really isn't a problem when a reel has good bearings. Daiwa has some of the best reel bearings that hold up really well, also daiwa uses what seems to be a higher grade brass, the Penn fathom star drags too. I would worry more about the pinion gear since it takes more abuse.
    My saltiga SD has full brass and not a problem.
    The new lexas seem pretty legit, multiple 100lb tuna caught on them in field testing.

    I'm very familiar with the brass vs stainless steel debate. From my experience nothing wrong with either. Just trade offs.

    I've had some in depth conversations with the Daiwa crew at the shows about their choice of materials and why. Information I couldn't pry out of other manufacturers. Pretty much what they explained gave me a better perception of what they're trying to offer for ALL anglers. They didn't have to explain anything and just regurgitate what's on the box. But they took the time and that has kept me a loyal customer for many years.

    But I do mostly favor stainless steel for certain applications when it's an available option. It's personal preference thing... call it snobery if you must. :D

    We've seen the HD version introduced after the original gray Lexas. My crystal ball says if these T-Wing Lexas do well we may again see an HD version and maybe even a Winn Grip edition.
     
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    According to Shimano and Daiwa website:
    ITEM CODEMONO LINE CAPACITY (#TEST/YD)WEIGHT (OZ)BEARINGSGEAR RATIORETRIEVE PER CRANK (IN)POWERPRO BRAID (LB/YDS)MAX DRAG (LB)
    TRX401A12/330, 14/260, 20/160125+15.8:13050/275, 65/170, 80/14022
    MODELAll8CRBB+1RB
    BEARINGS
    All6.37.18.15.3
    GEAR RATIO
    All33.537.542.928.7
    LINE PER HANDLE TURN
    All12.012.2
    WEIGHT (OZ)
    All12/260, 14/21517/220, 20/175
    MONO CAPACITY
    All30/310, 50/17540/260, 50/235
    J-BRAID CAPACITY
    All28.724.2
    DRAG MAX
    LX-TW400HL-P8CRBB+1RB7.137.512.217/220, 20/17540/260, 50/23528.7
    They are very comparable reels. The new Lexa basically have the new T Wing System (gimmick? Can't speak since I never used one), new CRBB bearing ( basically greased bearing ) , aluminum side plate is a plus compare to the Tranx composite side plate.
    The new Lexa use bronze gear ( down grade from the old Lexa HD?)
    Pricewise it is more expensive than the Tranx but with no clear advantage. I really want to try out this reel but with this price I will pass. My 2 cents.
    Wouldn’t a brass gear give more durability and strength? Checked one out today at the local shop. My first impressions: 1) a lot more compact and lighter than the previous Lexa 400HD. 2) brass gear vs ss discussion 3) price .
    Ive tried others in this class range from Lexa to tranx Komodo and even the fathom, fav was Lexa-HD and fathom=Komodo least fav was the tranx.
     
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    Wouldn’t a brass gear give more durability and strength? Checked one out today at the local shop. My first impressions: 1) a lot more compact and lighter than the previous Lexa 400HD. 2) brass gear vs ss discussion 3) price .
    Ive tried others in this class range from Lexa to tranx Komodo and even the fathom, fav was Lexa-HD and fathom=Komodo least fav was the tranx.
    No lol. It is just smoother. I think a stainless pinion matters more since it takes a lot more pressure and abuse.
     
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    Shimano has taken crap for years with all the meaningless gobbledygook terms they use but Daiwa is taking that to a whole ‘mother level with hyper everything! Maybe they can squeeze a few more digi‘s in there too.
     
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    Look Like they shaved some weight, added couple more ball bearings and pump up the max drag on the new model. Probably some of the weight come off the main gear cause they switched to the brass main gear from stainless steel , they also ditched the weighed handle to save some weight as well. The new Lexa have smaller body and spool lead to less line capacity than the last gen model.
    Looks like no good reason to upgrade from my 300 & 400 hd. Want to see in person the new twing lexa. Wondering if the twing is large enough to allow a RP connection knot to smoothly reel back on the spool. 50lb braid to 25-40lb mono/fluro.
     
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    Looks like no good reason to upgrade from my 300 & 400 hd. Want to see in person the new twing lexa. Wondering if the twing is large enough to allow a RP connection knot to smoothly reel back on the spool. 50lb braid to 25-40lb mono/fluro.
    J&h made a review on the 300. Looks pretty sick. Also it turns out the t wing will help with casting, in the video it shows when spool is disengaged the wider part moves up for casting giving a lot more room for your line to go out. Should be a pretty good caster if anything.
     
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    Yup, saw the video. My sv coastal is my main bay reel. Tatula tw 200 hd sees lots of halfday trips too. Both of these reels I fish with the leader knot outside of the guides. With my lexas the levelwind guide is tall and wide enough to allow the leader knot on the spool.
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    Getting back to this since I got one. The t wing is plenty big. It's actually quite a big larger opening than the old lexas, it's taller and a bit wider yet doesn't affect line management. I love it.
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    No lol. It is just smoother. I think a stainless pinion matters more since it takes a lot more pressure and abuse.
    I agree 100% depending on the SS alloy they used bronze can actually be more costly but on the flip side it machines easier so who knows. Bronze al, things being equal tends to give a smooth gear mesh.

    Also as Daiwa loves to parts bin build I am confident that the SS pinion is likely just the Lexa HD pinion and if the ratios are the same it's a good chance the SS main gear from the HD version will swap in. I believe I have seen where people have swapped in the SS gear pinion to the Win model as people wanted the HD but with a line clicker and that was a way to get it. See no reason the would cut totally new gears for a platform they already have.
     
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    Yes you are right, the Tatula 400 / Lexa is very similar , the different is Tatula 400 is 7 S-RAB Bearing + 1 Roller Bearing , the Lexa TW is 8 CRBB bearing + 1 Roller Bearing. The Lexa is come with Power handle and the Tatula is come with double paddles handle with both 300 and 400 size. The Prorex is identical with the Lexa 400 but market as a Musky reel that's why they not packed the bearing with grease as the Lexa , with oil bearing it should be able to cast further.
    One more interesting thing is the Tatula come with the Hyper Drive Desing : It is the combination of Hyper Drive Digigear, Hyper Double Support ( 2 bearing support the pinion gear the same technology as Shimano X-Ship) , Hyper Armed Housing and Hyper Tough Clutch.
    tatula-tw-2.jpg

    The Lexa 400 is missing one more of those things. And the Pinion gear is stainless steel on all 3 reels. The Lexa is retail $379 while you can buy the Tatulla 400 for $260.
    Do you by chance know what or where the bearing count difference is Lexa tw vs tatula tw?

    Does the Tatula 400 use a bushing/s where the Lexas TW has the bearing or is it a different design in that area?

    I was about to order a Tatula TW 400 when I got wind of Daiwa possibly releasing a Lexa TW. I figured it would be the HD model with the T-wing. So I held off to see. If the only benefit of the Lexa TW is an extra bearing I will go ahead with the Tatula. If it's a simple Bushing to bearing swap I will do that otherwise I prefer the tech and specs of the Tatula 400. I would only want the og power handle with the counter weight cs the double anyways so that's a none factor.


    Looking at the Daiwa and some vendor sites it seems the bearings in the Tatula TW 400 and Prorex TW 400 are the same versus the Lexa TW

    * Tatula TW 400: 2 CRBB, 5BB,+ 1 RB 8 total
    * Prorex TW 400: 2 CRBB, 5BB, + 1 RB 8 total
    * Lexa TW 400 8 CRBB + 1 RB 9 total
    * Lexa HD 400 6 CRBB + 1 RB 7 total

    Tatula TW: https://www.fishingstation.com.au/s...g-reels/daiwa-21-tatula-tw-400-baitcast-reel/

    Prorex TW: https://daiwa.us/products/prorex-tw

    Lexa TW: https://daiwa.us/products/lexa-tws

    Lexa HD: https://daiwa.us/collections/baitcasting-reels/products/lexa-type-hd

    Also did not realize they had released the Prorex TW 400 is in the USA market. Weird they have basically the exact same reel as the Lexas TW less the bearing and color difference. I assume you could swap in the CRBBs and only need to add whatever the additional one is if possible and have a Lexa TW with the Prorex color scheme.

    I have to say Daiwa makes some of the nicest large lp baitcasters and their braking is fantastic. The Lexa, Lexa HD, Lexa TW, Tatula TW400, Z2020, Zillion HD TW all fantastic large lp baitcast reels. Other than the Tranx 500 I prefer the Daiwas when it comes to large LPBC. I hope one day Daiwa will build a Tranx 500 Killer. That would be awesome to combine all the tech from the above 4 models upsized. It would be the first all SS Hyper Drive Digigear set.
     
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    Daiwa said the lexas have all CRBBs and heavier drag. the lexas are for saltwater, prorex are for fresh.

    Probably going to grab a 400 to replace my komodo soon.
    I have been studying and comparing the Lexa tw vs tatula tw. From what I can tell after way too much searching is they are very very close to the same offering.

    The only differences I can find are the following:

    the handles ( Lexa TW non-counter balanced power handle vs Tatula TW double handle.)

    Bearing Lexa TW has one more (8+1)and all of them less the roller bearing are CRBB. The Tatula is 7+1 with 2 CRBB 5 BB 1RB.

    The Tatula might be the only one to have the Hyper Drive cut gears but I question this as the Lexa is not marketed as having any Hyper package tech yet it has the Hyper Pinion support the Hyper Clutch The Hyper Frame. As they share all of those as well as the SS pinion bronze gear set why bother cutting a different gear set? I simply not sure on that one.

    Both have the same UTG Drag and rating around 28lb. That includes the Prorex TW 400. They all use the same drag stack.

    You can get the Lexa in 5.3:1 but not the Tatula.
    Tatula TW: 6.3, 7.1, 8.1
    Lexa TW: 5.3, 6.3, 7.1, 8.1

    To me the Tatula is the better buy at almost $100 less unless you are dunking your reel and or not servicing it properly. In the US there is the warranty issue which can matter.
     
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    I have been studying and comparing the Lexa tw vs tatula tw. From what I can tell after way too much searching is they are very very close to the same offering.

    The only differences I can find are the following:

    the handles ( Lexa TW non-counter balanced power handle vs Tatula TW double handle.)

    Bearing Lexa TW has one more (8+1)and all of them less the roller bearing are CRBB. The Tatula is 7+1 with 2 CRBB 5 BB 1RB.

    The Tatula might be the only one to have the Hyper Drive cut gears but I question this as the Lexa is not marketed as having any Hyper package tech yet it has the Hyper Pinion support the Hyper Clutch The Hyper Frame. As they share all of those as well as the SS pinion bronze gear set why bother cutting a different gear set? I simply not sure on that one.

    Both have the same UTG Drag and rating around 28lb. That includes the Prorex TW 400. They all use the same drag stack.

    You can get the Lexa in 5.3:1 but not the Tatula.
    Tatula TW: 6.3, 7.1, 8.1
    Lexa TW: 5.3, 6.3, 7.1, 8.1

    To me the Tatula is the better buy at almost $100 less unless you are dunking your reel and or not servicing it properly. In the US there is the warranty issue which can matter.
    What are you fishing for?
     
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    What are you fishing for?

    I am on the east coast Virginia. I fish from Maryland to Florida depending time of yr. My plan for this will be using it for both fresh and salt. Muskie, Pike, Blue/Flat Cats, Striper, Drum, Tautog, Bluefish, bull Snook, Triple Tail. From boat shore and surf. Very general use. If I had to pick where the most time would be its fresh water and brackish just because of my location as I am a few hours from ocean/bay.
     
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    I am on the east coast Virginia. I fish from Maryland to Florida depending time of yr. My plan for this will be using it for both fresh and salt. Muskie, Pike, Blue/Flat Cats, Striper, Drum, Tautog, Bluefish, bull Snook, Triple Tail. From boat shore and surf. Very general use. If I had to pick where the most time would be its fresh water and brackish just because of my location as I am a few hours from ocean/bay.
    Tatula or prorex is for you.
     
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    Tatula or prorex is for you.
    I agree. Thank you

    Pretty much had settled on the Tatula. Seems you get the most for the money.

    It's the Prorex minus purple accents plus Hyper Drive gear for $50 less. Or the Lexa minus one bearing and a few CRBB swapped with R-AB bearings, but has Hyper Drive gear for $100 less. Not a ton of diff between the 3.
     
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    I got the 400 at Dana to replace my komodo. Spooled it up with 50lb prospec, took 300 yards with a bit room left for more. It's really smooth, Shimano smooth.

    I didn't wanna open it up so I looked at the schematic. very pleased to find a very well supported pinion gear and main gear.
    IMG_20210731_153102.jpg

    Was surprised to find that it has the X Ship design from Shimano ( 2 bearings supporting the pinion ). Also increases casting distance since there is less friction. The pinion gear on the tw model actually has better pinion support than previous generations which used bushings.
    IMG_20210731_153112__01.jpg

    Also has a bearing supporting the gear shaft, love seeing this. It takes a lot of the load when cranking under pressure and increases torque a lot. There is a noticable difference when reels don't have it. The tranx does not have it. There is also a much stiffer clutch, I tried pretty hard to pop back into gear throwing it back and forth and it is pretty hard. Safe to say you probably won't pop into gear when casting

    Reason they didnt put full ss gears in it is because there is literally no need for it. With all the bearing support the gears will not wear as much.

    Other than that it is a very nice reel. It's got a lot of similarities to the tranx, just more saltwater minded with better bearings and design
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    I'll put a few fish on it and see how it holds up. Hopefully it preforms as good as it looks.
     
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