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  1. writebrian

    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    A little bored this winter and in need of another jig stick. I have more time than money so I am going to mod an 800M that I have owned forever. It currently has a way oversized reel seat on it and I want to fish it with my Komodo 471 as a 30# jig stick. The hypalon is also too thick and it affects my grip when throwing iron. I own several Proteus rods now so I am more used to the slender feel of modern sticks.

    So here is my plan... Strip the lower blank (leave guides) and rewrap with only double sided tape and straight Winn grip. At the same time slide a more compact and light reel seat up the butt and epoxy down. I have never built a rod but I am YouTube certified in many different fields.

    Any suggestions before I undertake this task? Does anyone know the butt diameter of a factory 800M? Does anyone have a good suggestion for a lightweight graphite reel seat to use that would fit?

    Open to any and all thoughts from you Pros. Thank you in advance!

    Here is the YouTube video I am using for guidance:
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    OD of the butt should be 0.93”

    A size 24 seat should fit.

    Graphite seats: Fuji DPS and DPSH
    Aluminum seats: Alps centra lock

    Also might want to consider a plate seat. That would be the slickest, lightest option but I don’t have enough personal experience with them to endorse fully.

    Also I have no experience with the Winn wrap, but I think you will want to get some small pieces of heat shrink to clean up the ends of it.
     
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    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    I have actually done Winn wrap on all of my Proteus rods. That is the only part of this undertaking that I am already comfortable with. Would I just wrap up to the reel seat or is the object to get the seat over or under the wrap too?
     
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    I would treat it as two separate grips with the seat in the middle of them. That will get you better adhesion to the blank, and being able to use a smaller seat.
     
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    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    Awesome... thanks!
    One other possibility I'm considering... Fuji makes a nice trigger reel seat that I like. However the largest inner diameter is 22mm. I found another YouTube video that shows you can cut the blank under the seat and insert the seat without having to clear the butt section. Thereby allowing for a smaller seat to go in. Then you use a wooden dowel or price of scrap blank and epoxy to reattach rod sections and then install seat.

    Anyone ever do this? Is the 800M a hollow
    or solid blank? Is the section of blank under the seat really going to be two millimeters smaller than the butt? Too risky? Does anyone know of a Trigger reel seat that comes in 24mm?
     
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    It's really up to you as far as how risky you want to be and how much effort you are willing to put into it as its your rod. If i was doing this for a buddy I would be pretty upfront with them that this could go badly. But here is a good place to start:

    https://www.rodbuilding.org/library/blankextend.pdf
     
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    writebrian ... and I'm 6'5"

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    Ill stick to the first method and use the Fuji DPS seat as that is what is on all of my Proteus rods. When I look at ordering the seat online they are all described as "Spinning" seats not Casting. Is there a difference? Anyone have a link to a 24mm Fuji DPS seat for a casting rod or one for sale?

    http://www.mudhole.com/DPSD-Deluxe-Graphite-Spinning-Reel-Seat
     
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    The reel seat you're putting on from the butt is smaller than the one that's on it?? That sounds odd.......
     
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    The one that's on it is a large black and gold aluminum unit with oversized collars. Very unwieldy for a low profile baitcaster although it has worked fine with my larger Accurates for all these years. I want the entire setup slimmed down to match more closely with my modern Proteus arsenal and mount a Komodo 400 size reel.

    The current seat is the black and gold on the left:

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    This is what I want to install. Apparently I need them in 24mm to clear the butt. Link anyone?

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    Thank you. That's the model I kept finding but everywhere it was sold had it listed as 'Spinning' seat. I guess it don't make a difference if it goes on a casting rod.

    Do you know of any manufacturer that makes a trigger reel seat in a 24mm ID?
     
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    look at baston/Alps Products
     
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    So... I did it! Stripped the blank of hypalon and cut off original reel seat with a Dremel. Cut the blank at an angle under the new seat location. Installed a piece of blank in the joint and re-epoxied it all back together with a 20mm Fuji reel seat added. Wrapped in Gorrilla 2 sided tape and Winn wrap on top of that. I am 100% happy with the the results!

    Thank you for all your help and input!!!

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    Pretty cool...how long was the piece of blank you used to reconnect the 2 pieces?
     
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    It extended at least 6” into both sides of the blank.
     
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    Nice work! Looks 100% original!
     

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