Need a rod asap in a bind. info please!

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  1. xyourlocaldjx

    xyourlocaldjx Newbie

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    I will make it short and painless. A buddy is taking his yacht out this weekend to catalina and I want to fish. I have no rod.

    which is the best bang for the buck. My reel is a daiwa sealine 40 with 30lb test.
    I want to troll if possible and also yoyo.

    7 foot heavy 1-4oz 30-60lb line - pro saber sd700 for 39.99
    or the Saber 20-50lb sc700c stroker. 39.99

    or the

    Avet graphite saltwater rod sx665 20-50lb test $99
    or the
    Avet sx700 20-50lb test both for 99 a piece.

    I'd like to save as much $ as possible so if the avet doesnt have a huge difference compared to the others please let me know.

    I do like avets blue metal nuts on the bottom compared to the others black plastic. thats more for visual though.

    thanks!
     
  2. screaming_spool

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    Grab a sabre from big 5. Just inspect it first. Take a friend and load that rod up good. Make sure it is not fractured.
     
  3. BuonaForTuna

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    If its between sabre or an Ugly stick ill take the ugly stick.
     
  4. Surfdoc

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    You don't know the difference. Get the Ugly stick. It'll last forever.
     
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    Hell don't remember the brand but go with the jig stick for $44.99 and use your reel clamps to hold it in place. If they have any Daiwa poles in the trangle grip buy it for the $29.99 price. Got mine yesterday and this was a steal. Also if you can handle the blue color grip, then the classic Sabre (stroker) 12-30lbs blank 270c is also a nice option for $39.99. Like I said you have to be able to handle the color. But you can get a couple of rods for the price of the Avert. The Avert are their best poles but you can still do well with others. You should probably considered a smaller reel like say a Saltist 20h or 30h for the kelp areas. This would make a nice option with the 270c.
    Good luck
     
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    There is one particular Ugly stick I use its called the Black steel that thing is fucking awesome lol everyone laughs they see all my seekers and calstars and then see my ugly stick and are like wtf but that thing can bend in a pretzel and wont break great for when a fish goes under the boat..
     
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    Surfdoc The finger in the Dyke!

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    Jesse, thats why I said that. Have a 40-60 in my garage. It goes to Baja with me... perfect for damn near anything. Pretty... yea like Saluki's smile!
     
  8. xyourlocaldjx

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    guess i'll look into the ugly stick! damnit, guess i gotta fork up some more money for one. I have to go buy a pole spear also!
     
  9. BuonaForTuna

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    LOL dude my ugly stick cost me 60 at jeffs sporting goods in Rosemead. Not much trust me my other rods all cost me over $300 easily dont complain when you dont have to lol. where in LA are you?
     
  10. xyourlocaldjx

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    I am in torrance. LOL i hate getting into new sports because i always buy the "best shit" and regret it later. $1500 on my paintball gun only, 400 dollar helmets for street bikes, $1000 full leater suit, $300 boots, $300 dirtbike helmet, $120 jersey and pants, $350 boots... and i have like 2-3 sets of each... not to mention a safe full of fire arms, and the 3 motorcycles etc etc etc.
    So i figured I'd go for the cheaper stuff with this hobby since my wallet is drier than rossie o'donnels vagina at a chip 'n dales show. Also seems like fishing can get expensive real quick!

    Ugly Stik CAL1101 7'0" MH 10-25 lbs $25 the guy i talked to mentioned i can use this for saltwater too... true?

    also as far as the ratings.. would a 30lb stick be good enough for just trolling some 4.5 oz and under lures and yo yo'ing near the island?
     
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    30 is good the only thing i wouldnt recommend the Ugly stick for trolling because of the way its made. That shit would bend like crazy and may cause the lure to skip a bit more then it should. I would use a stiffer rod for that rated at 50lbs Min. This sport is expensive but remember you get what you pay for.
     
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    I gave you the wrong name for the one that i have its a Black Tiger its a one piece not a 2 piece rod those arent good for you they are for spincast reels. The model is BTBWC 2200 7' Med Action 12-30lb
     
  13. mc08066

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    If you are going to troll you probably want to get a Penn 114h 6/0 reel as the cheapest option that will still work well. Trolling poles tends to be shorter 6 feet or less from 40 to 100 lbs with seeker having some good options. You might want to consider Ebay, Craigslist to find a good prices on a used pole. Look on these BD classifieds for some options including custom poles. Bottom line is when you go to Catalina you will usually have 3 poles/reels sets and a couple more trolling set-ups. Unfortunately this sport can get expensive real fast. But once you pull on a 25 lb yellowtail you'll understand it better.
    Good luck.
     
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    I agree Jimmy with that Penn as the cheapest way to go for a trolling reel especially since he will be on a yacht at a higher rate of speed. Too bad that shit is a single speed but it works just fine (standard rental trolling rod for most sport boats).
     
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    makes sense now. I googled the previous model and found nothing :rofl:

    I sure am learning a lot from you! You need a student? hahha
     
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    In a Ugly Stik you probably should go with a BWC2202 7', rated 30-60. The 2201 rated 20-50 might do too. Nothing lighter for 30#.
     
  17. IglooMan

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    If you get hooked on fishing, the cheap gear that you buy now will end up being the most expensive gear that you own. When it fails youll spend a little more money for another POS, then replace that with another that also ends up bein a POS etc etc When this cycle is done you will have spent more than it would have cost to just go out and buy quality tackle to begin with.

    Lose the fish of a lifetime and ruin an otherwise good (and usually expensive) trip and itll be even worse.

    That said there are a few exceptions to the rule and both have been mentioned here: UglySticks and Penn Senators.

    UglySticks are well... ugly, but are very very tough.

    Senators while not an Accurate are an ok entry level reel for offshore trolling in SoCal. They will handle just about anything youll encounter unless you run into a big shark, swordfish, etc.

    As far as 2-speeds are concerned, you shouldnt be worried about that unless you are considering targeting the aforementioned species and want to buy a big (30 or up) lever drag trolling reel.
     
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    I told a guy i would pick up his 7' 12-30 lb weight rod. is this too light?

    Found another 7' , 30-60 lb rating, Med Heavy action. Model # BWC / AO 2202...

    should i pick up both or just one? Maybe the 12-30# rod is pointless? I'm sorry i know nothing! lol
     

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