Mutu Hybrid?

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  1. RideHPD

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    Has anyone seen/fishes Owner's newer Hybrid Mutu? It's a Mutu in between the standard and light gauges, looks to be a great option for pickier tuna over the rat size. I need a new light circle hook, I'm completely over the Mustad Perfect Circle.
     
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    Yes I purchased them for the picky Tuna bite and they worked.
     
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    Probably not much different than the Gamakatsu Ringed Nautilist.
     
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    Gamakatsu is the son of the man who owns Owner hooks is what someone told me. Theyre great hooks been using them for years but harder and harder to find in local tackle stores. Takas tackle has a good selection. Owner mutu light is straight junk imho.
     
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    About how thick are they?

    Gamakatsu is the most underrated hook MFG around IMO and I like the Nautilus hooks, but they don't make them as small as I want them, let alone ring them. I know the Hybrids aren't ringed either but I'm planning on buying some and sending them to RingedHooks or someone else to finish the job off. I'd like to find a small, stealth hook that can be ringed and use on up to 60lb tackle. The Mustad's get close and get bit very well, but they're not offset and I can never get them in the corner, they're always choked.

    Although part of that I wonder is if the gap isn't wide enough to get around the jawbone...
     
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    The diameter of the wire is about the same as their Flyliner series. They work well with 40# line. Start to straighten out a little when using 50#. Depends on how much drag you are using. They worked for the 40-50# class YFT at the Lupe this year. Other opinions may vary.
     
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    ive used Gamakatsu for sometime
    they are IMO just the right size gauge to get bit and have yet to have on fail on me
     
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    I’ve broken many gamakatsu hooks in the gulf ... never any super mutu ... or mutu .. I’m going to try this hook .. purchased 18 .. gonna see how they do for my fishery
     
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    Has anyone found the ringed ones for sale? They are on Owner Hooks website, but, unlike all the other Owners, these are not for sale yet -- It says available Winter 18. Is Guy our only option -- get the unringed and ask him to ring them?
     
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    Interesting.... from my experience a non offset hook has a much better chance of setting in the corner of the month than a offset hook I use a non offset circle for tuna and 99% are hooked in the corner of the mouth....

    all the Mustad perfect circle hooks I have seen are offset.....
     
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    Oh that must be newer, those weren't on the website over summer or so, maybe they meant winter '19
     
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    check out the Mustad Demon ,its ringed and offset ,
    and 3 X, that's what they showed me, at Melton's,
    that guys were using , for the BFT,
    and they had them in 2/0.
     
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    I heard back from Owner:

    “No, they are not available until Feb/March of 2019”


    From: Loc Vetter [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:20 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Ringed Mutu Hybrid


    Need your new Ringed Mutu Hybird. Are they available anywhere???? Pretty please.
     
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    I'll probably get trashed for this, but try the Trokars! I've been using them the last few years, and really like them. Never had one break, and they seem to stick really well. JMHO.
     
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    I don't know, the mustad demon circle in 3/0 has been my secret weapon for picky bluefin under 100#. The hooks stick ridiculously well and haven't deformed yet. Deckhands have a hard time getting them out. I had 5 baits and 5 bites one morning last week using these hooks on 40 and 60lb fluoro fishing for 50-60lb bft (3 fish, 1 raked bait, one plucked from the hook). I still use the 4/0 super mutus when the big ones are picky, and a bigger bait. Hook in the shoulder/back of head to hide the hook from below.
     
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    So I wanted to take some pics before revisting this.

    Mutu:
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    3X Demon Perfect Circle
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    These are the Mustads I'm talking about. I've had problems with these getting gut hooked, but most of that has been with 20-25lb YFT and BFT, almost every time with these guys. I've only hooked 2 decent bluefin on them, one was around/over 100lbs that broke off on 30lb at gaff, which I'm assuming found the corner or that wouldn't have lasted the 2+hrs it did, the second was on a 65ish fish where the hook wasn't in the corner, and either bent significantly or was bent by the deckhand trying to remove it, and I'm guessing the latter is the case. I haven't had extensive experience with the Mutus, but all have always been in the corner. Though I will concede those we're all much larger hooks than the Perfect Circles, so if hook size plays a role, then that's definitely a possibility.
     
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    Easy to do these yourself, Loc. This is one application where I feel that silver is superior to bronze. And you can decide what size rings to use.
     
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    Those are offset hooks...what are you doing when you get a bite to set the hook?
     
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    I find it interesting that it did not even cross my mind. You are, of course, correct. I'll get some.

    Silver is just a bit quicker, cooler and easier, and I am unlikely to store a hook I have used for a long time - -is that why you say silver might be better here?

    I'm thinking: maybe 5/0 and 6/0, for that sized bait on 100#. Either bigger bait or 130 might as well use Super Mutu. ???
     
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    I have been very impressed by the Mustad Demon 4x. Very strong and yet a bit finer wire than the Super Mutu i usually favour. The 3x would be finer yet. I would be careful if BIG bluefin are in the mix as the 3x is not strong in the cow world. Although it ends up depending on how much drag you pull
     
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