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tunanorth

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Just received this e-mail from Captain Mike Lackey of the Vagabond.


Hi Steve,
Just wanted to let you know how well the Fathom 40's loaded with 80 lb
pro spec and a short (50 yds) topshot of 80 lb big game on these 120 -
175 lb Yft are working incredible!
We are having guys come to us asking to borrow our gear after watching
the other passengers using them.
Must admit I thought I was asking to much of the reel, but its been
solid.
Love my International 20VISX, I do believe the 12's and 16's are the right reel for this
after seeing them in action.
Thank you,
Mike Lackey
 

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Hey Steve,

I have been to Guadalupe with Mike twice in the last 3 weeks and I was on the Vagabonds last trip and the boat gear (Fathom 40N 2 speeds) does get a work out! I witnessed many times the passengers struggling with other 2 speed reels with these beautiful 100 to 150 lb YFT's and with Mikes gently suggestion to use one of the Fathoms on the Calstar rods he has for loaner gear. The fish were put on the boat with 1/2 the sweat in half the time and more than one person said they were going to purchase one when they got home! I even witnessed Mike throw 60 lb on a Fathom 30-2 speed as he kicked the fishes butt to get it through the sharks in just a few minutes. I stood and watched and really thought I was going to see a reel explode before my eyes, but it did not!
I personally have been using the Torque 40N 2 speed and have boated all 10 fish on that reel. Most fish were 10-25 minutes and I was able to throw out immediately again without rest because I was not tired at all. Great little reels for those Guadalupe tuna!! I think Penn has hit a home run with both of those reels!
 
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tunanorth

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Hey Steve,

I have been to Guadalupe with Mike twice in the last 3 weeks and I was on the Vagabonds last trip and the boat gear (Fathom 40N 2 speeds) does get a work out! I witnessed many times the passengers struggling with other 2 speed reels with these beautiful 100 to 150 lb YFT's and with Mikes gently suggestion to use one of the Fathoms on the Calstar rods he has for loaner gear. The fish were put on the boat with 1/2 the sweat in half the time and more than one person said they were going to purchase one when they got home! I even witnessed Mike throw 60 lb on a Fathom 30-2 speed as he kicked the fishes butt to get it through the sharks in just a few minutes. I stood and watched and really thought I was going to see a reel explode before my eyes, but it did not!
I personally have been using the Torque 40N 2 speed and have boated all 10 fish on that reel. Most fish were 10-25 minutes and I was able to throw out immediately again without rest because I was not tired at all. Great little reels for those Guadalupe tuna!! I think Penn has hit a home run with both of those reels!



I agree; I LOVE my Torque TRQ40NLD2.
 

Cubeye

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Hey Steve,

I have been to Guadalupe with Mike twice in the last 3 weeks and I was on the Vagabonds last trip and the boat gear (Fathom 40N 2 speeds) does get a work out! I witnessed many times the passengers struggling with other 2 speed reels with these beautiful 100 to 150 lb YFT's and with Mikes gently suggestion to use one of the Fathoms on the Calstar rods he has for loaner gear. The fish were put on the boat with 1/2 the sweat in half the time and more than one person said they were going to purchase one when they got home! I even witnessed Mike throw 60 lb on a Fathom 30-2 speed as he kicked the fishes butt to get it through the sharks in just a few minutes. I stood and watched and really thought I was going to see a reel explode before my eyes, but it did not!
I personally have been using the Torque 40N 2 speed and have boated all 10 fish on that reel. Most fish were 10-25 minutes and I was able to throw out immediately again without rest because I was not tired at all. Great little reels for those Guadalupe tuna!! I think Penn has hit a home run with both of those reels!
If I may ask, which other 2-speeds were the other passengers struggling with to land their fish?
 

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I really did not ask them the brands during their struggles as I was paying more attention to the fishing. It seemed that they could not get turns on the handle while in low gear pinned to the rail and spent more time fighting the tackle than the fish. I do know that a lot of the boat rods were being used by the end of the trip and they were much happier with the fathom 2 speeds.
 

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I was also on the last trip with Mike we were dumbfounded by how well these reels work for these mean Tuna and FYI there mounted on 700h rods not exactly rated for 80.
 

watersdeep

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I was also on the last trip with Mike we were dumbfounded by how well these reels work for these mean Tuna and FYI there mounted on 700h rods not exactly rated for 80.
OH WOW! 700h? Well all be!
 

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I forgot to add that the Penn Fathom 40N 2 speeds on this trip were set to 23 lbs of drag at strike with a full spool and they still had awesome free spool. Mike was pretty adamant about the reel drag being set properly before they went into the water every morning.
 

tunanorth

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More of Mike's report.


Trip 34-17 5.5-Day JRI Lupe (11/6/17-11/12/17)
JRI put on another epic trip! Very good Guadalupe tuna fishing for fish in the 120 to 147-lb range. Everybody got in on the action. Cannot say enough about the quality of these fish, they put all the gear to the test. It was incredible how well our Penn Fathom 40 2-speeds are performing. We have them loaded with 80-pound Berkley pro-spec and topped with Big Game 80-lb mono, this combo is working excellent on these fish. We had a ...few nice Yellowtail mixed in to spice it up. JRI & Blue Pacific Tackle brought the swag & margaritas in the afternoon to soothe sore muscles or just a break. Thank you, as always, a great time when John J, JRI & Blue Pacific Tackle are onboard. Thanks also to One Cool Tuna for documenting the trip, see his pics at: https://onecooltuna.smugmug.com/…/JRI-Vagabond-55…/i-s6dsrC5
Fluffy, get back to work!
 

tunanorth

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How did the 16VISX respond? Looking at getting one on Black Friday.


In Mike's original statement he is saying the 12VISX and 16VISX are right for this fishery, although he was also using a 20VISX.
FTR, the 40N's and 12VISX's all have the same line capacity, so if you want a little "cushion", the 16VISX gives you that.
 

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I caught a 100#+ fish at the Lupe a couple of weeks ago on a Fathom 40LD2 and it worked great. It really put the wood to that fish.
 

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Just got back from Seeker 6 day on the Shogun. 4-5 of us fished the Fathom 40 with 80 braid to very short 80 topshot with great success. my brother and i got 3 cookie cutter size 100# YFT under 20-30mins.

the boat had these reels as loaners and one angler named John walked on without any gear. second day, he landed biggest fish around 175 without any equipment problem. after that, my brother and i promptly switched out the 60# topshot (initially used for yellowtail) to 80# and racked the heavier 80# reels. the drags were set to 15# at strike so we were fishing between strike and full. during the up and down, we did hear some whining from the reel. going to send these off to Alan Tani as we always do each year and see what he says.
 

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Just got back from Seeker 6 day on the Shogun. 4-5 of us fished the Fathom 40 with 80 braid to very short 80 topshot with great success. my brother and i got 3 cookie cutter size 100# YFT under 20-30mins.

the boat had these reels as loaners and one angler named John walked on without any gear. second day, he landed biggest fish around 175 without any equipment problem. after that, my brother and i promptly switched out the 60# topshot (initially used for yellowtail) to 80# and racked the heavier 80# reels. the drags were set to 15# at strike so we were fishing between strike and full. during the up and down, we did hear some whining from the reel. going to send these off to Alan Tani as we always do each year and see what he says.



Shogun has been using them successfully as Guadalupe loaners for a couple of years now.
 
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Steve, I was on the Vagabond lupe trip at the start of November with Dwayne and had a good time using the VSX 12 that I won on the Penn 5 day charter in Aug. Thank you again for a fun August trip.
The 12VSX worked great with 80 lb braid & 80 top shot. Fish were equally biting the 80 and 100 lb line. Thank you again for a fun August trip. Super long soaks, down to little line on the spool, and let the bait keep running: worked great
 
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Steve, I was on the Vagabond lupe trip at the start of November with Dwayne and had a good time using the VSX 12 that I won on the Penn 5 day charter in Aug. Thank you again for a fun August trip.
The 12VSX worked great with 80 lb braid & 80 top shot. Fish were equally biting the 80 and 100 lb line. Thank you again for a fun August trip. Super long soaks, down to little line on the spool, and let the bait keep running: worked great
 

joel8080

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Have the reel love it but I am confused go with 23 at strike or 15 at strike?. using 80 spectra.