Mixed advise from local stores on transducer - Simrad NSS Evo3 S with Halo 20+ bundle

[Nefarious]

Should have come to you all first

Let me stress I do not know much about these things at all.

The unit will be going on a 28' center console - that will be fished 80% south in ensenada (off shore and inshore) , with the occasional trips up north here off shore in SD. Went back and forth on the GO series packages and EVO3 packages. Decided to go up to the EVO3 S and just get the radar package while I was at it.

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Went to both the local west marine locations here in SD and 3 people give me all different answers lol. They recommended one of the simrad through hull transducers but all told me to stay away from the 1kw power output models - to keep it at 600 watts. I honestly dont remember their explanation as to why. Can any of you find a reason as to why they would recommend this? They were helpful... but I always left more confused (but again probably my fault as I am not educated in this type of thing at all).

As ive looked over this section, I see the Airmar B175HW all over the place. Seen a couple that have paired it up with the EVO3 as well. That said im guessing it will pair up just fine with the EVO3 S. The package above with the B175HW.... and call it the day? If so, any particular place you guys purchasing that ducer at?

 

[Capt Richie]

1KW wont read under 10' so I am told..If your running outboards the TM mount works great..I had it on two different boats ...I aslo run a High Chirp & side /down scan T/H on my 32' diesel boat..its all about placement ..they all work great..with the evo2 & go units ..

 

[Nefarious]

1KW wont read under 10' so I am told..If your running outboards the TM mount works great..I had it on two different boats ...I aslo run a High Chirp & side /down scan T/H on my 32' diesel boat..its all about placement ..they all work great..with the evo2 & go units ..

Most of the fishing we do (or when he takes others out as its a charter boat) is offshore. Not much I/we do under 10'

definitely looking to get a through hull

 

[998R]

Sent you a pm, I went through the ringer with this.


-m

 

[Jason]

What speed does the CC cruise? Thruhull is great but if on a gofast boat you don't want the drag and need a shoot through if it doesn't have a pocket for the transducer.

I'd also look very hard at the new Furuno TZtouch3 systems. Bad ass... And I was a Simrad guy. https://www.navnet.com/tzt3/en/

 

[Capt.C.Delany]

I have a Go9 paired with a B175HW.

I had a similar question regarding the wattage as I already had the Go9 prior to buying the transducer.

The output of the Go9 is only 600w whereas the Evo3 I believe is 1K.

In talking to other members here, though an Evo3 would be ideal and able to utilize the full 1k the transducer has to offer, the 600w produced from the Go9 is still good. (not saying equal, just good)

The additional sensitivity provided by the 1k transducer, even powered by a 600w MFD is still much better than a 600W transducer powered at 600w from the MFD.

The actual response from Gil was:

"The Go9 will not realize the B175's full capability...if going past 500'.
But in water less than 500' the B175 will still outperform the B75...as it is far more sensitive.."

So with already having the Go9, I still got the B175hw and it has been working great; I am very happy with my set up.

 

[tuna sniffer]

I, as do many others on here, run the EVO 3 with the B175HW and am very happy with the results. The transducer mounts flush with the bottom of your boat and has a tilted element so it shoots straight down. You need to measure the deadrise angle where the 175 will be installed and get the model made for that angle. You also need to make sure you have plenty of space for it in your bilge as it is much larger than a 600W unit. It makes no sense to me to spend all that money on electronics and not get the best transducer possible.

 

[Nefarious]

What speed does the CC cruise? Thruhull is great but if on a gofast boat you don't want the drag and need a shoot through if it doesn't have a pocket for the transducer.

I'd also look very hard at the new Furuno TZtouch3 systems. Bad ass... And I was a Simrad guy. https://www.navnet.com/tzt3/en/

Oh its definitely not a fancy gofast lol

Simple 28' with a single 250 on the back

 

[jeffkaiser]

What Tuna sniffer said! I have the NSSEVO3 with the B175HW. Love it. Lots of detail. Also run a transom mount side/down scan to supplement. I'm sure it will work even better on the EVO3S!

 

[Nefarious]

I, as do many others on here, run the EVO 3 with the B175HW and am very happy with the results. The transducer mounts flush with the bottom of your boat and has a tilted element so it shoots straight down. You need to measure the deadrise angle where the 175 will be installed and get the model made for that angle. You also need to make sure you have plenty of space for it in your bilge as it is much larger than a 600W unit. It makes no sense to me to spend all that money on electronics and not get the best transducer possible.

I didnt even think about the size difference between the 2 units! Thats one thing I will have to double check

 

[Capt.C.Delany]

You also need to make sure you have plenty of space for it in your bilge as it is much larger than a 600W unit.

It’s a bigg’n. (B175hw)

 

[Lucky B]

275LHW. One of the best transducers ever made.

 

[Nefarious]

275LHW. One of the best transducers ever made.

That one was also recommended to me and spoken HIGHLY of. Little more expensive, but definitely NOT off the table

 

[aguachico]

Check out simrad rebates. Good luck

 

[sickcat]

That one was also recommended to me and spoken HIGHLY of. Little more expensive, but definitely NOT off the table

More expensive yes but the low range would be nice for rockfishing and essential if your hunting elvis. If you compare the 275hlw and two 175s (a H and L) then the price of the 275 looks pretty good.

If the 275 is going to slow down your rocket too much then the difference in price gets you some $$ towards having it mounted in a pocket.

IIRC the high frequency elements in the 175HW and the 275HLW are the same.

 

[tuna sniffer]

The B275LHW is the do it all unit. Large unit with fairing block. Not meant for a trailer boat.

 

[Nefarious]

The B275LHW is the do it all unit. Large unit with fairing block. Not meant for a trailer boat.

Tempted to go this route instead. The guys at west marine said it could also be mounted flush??? Regardless, it will live its life in the water lol

Might even just go with the EVO3 as well. The huge cost increase for the S really doesnt seem worth it to me.

Edit: And theres a small sale on the EVO3 right now

 

[vipertom1970]

The NSS EVO3S has just a little faster processor than the NSS EVO3 but almost double the price. B175HW, EVO3 and Halo 20+ is a perfect combo.

 

[JohnnyK87137]

That one was also recommended to me and spoken HIGHLY of. Little more expensive, but definitely NOT off the table

This is a massive transducer

 

[Lucky B]

Evo 3 with the 275lhw and an s5100 sounder is a very very good setup. We make our living with our equipment and this is what we choose.

 

[tuna sniffer]

Evo 3 with the 275lhw and an s5100 sounder is a very very good setup. We make our living with our equipment and this is what we choose.

What does the S5100 add to the performance vs ducer connected straight to MFD?

 

[Lucky B]

A sounder module further enhances the clarity from the transducer to the MFDs.

 

[Robert Muniak]

I have 3 nss's with the Halo 24 and tm275. Able to mark tuna 30+mph. Also able to pickup porpoise 1 mile out on calm days on radar. Very happy with the setup

 

[Nefarious]

I have 3 nss's with the Halo 24 and tm275. Able to mark tuna 30+mph. Also able to pickup porpoise 1 mile out on calm days on radar. Very happy with the setup

Any issues with the TM? Does anything negative stand out (I realize its a fairly stupid question) to you that could pass along? Other than it being way easier to install, why did you go that route over a through hull?

 

[Papa "J"]

PM sent. come by see my boat
I also have a Simrad system builder that can list all components and what additional cables you will need