Max Drag Komodo Reel

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Got a new Komodo 463 and only getting 20 lbs of drag buttoned down. Will this increase with use or is there something I am missing?
 

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With an initial drag setting of 20#, it would be interesting to see how much it increases with the spool half empty.
 
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With an initial drag setting of 20#, it would be interesting to see how much it increases with the spool half empty.
Good point but I always thought drag numbers were supposed to be based on a full spool. Otherwise there is no standard.
Do you plan on fishing more than 60lb line on it?
I will be fishing rocky bottoms and boiler water in the rocks for rock fish, lingcod and halibut. So may be using up to 80 lb. braid for a little abrasion resistance. Was just surprised that I had to actually button down the drag to get 20 lbs out of a reel rated for 30.
 

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I have a 463 also but generally use 10-12 lb drag for 40-50 lb leader.

If you know you'll be fishing "X" feet of depth, you might try pulling "X" feet of line off and testing the drag there. That would be very interesting indeed.

463 fish, 50 braid #40 fluoro @10lb drag
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I wouldn't be surprised if the max drag was measured at around half spool.

From my experiance this is the case with most reels from most manufactures.

I am ok with that method of measuring drag because in most cases when you are fighting a fish that is taking drag, you are not going to be at full spool to begin with.

I have landed 8ft nurse sharks, 5ft hammers, and 200lb rays on my Komodo 471, you will have more then enough drag; don't worry.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the max drag was measured at around half spool.

From my experiance this is the case with most reels from most manufactures.

I am ok with that method of measuring drag because in most cases when you are fighting a fish that is taking drag, you are not going to be at full spool to begin with.

I have landed 8ft nurse sharks, 5ft hammers, and 200lb rays on my Komodo 471, you will have more then enough drag; don't worry.
While I understand that 20 lbs. of drag is more than I will likely fish on the Komodo I have several Avet and Makaira lever drag reels that easily achieve the stated drag levels at strike and full. Granted they have very large drag washers. But I am a bit surprised to see that I may only be getting 66% of the stated drag out of the Komodo and am curious it that is common with the reel or star drags in general. I have never had to fudge in any way to achieve the drag levels on other reels so that is why I was asking.

Thanks for the suggestions.
 

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While I understand that 20 lbs. of drag is more than I will likely fish on the Komodo I have several Avet and Makaira lever drag reels that easily achieve the stated drag levels at strike and full. Granted they have very large drag washers. But I am a bit surprised to see that I may only be getting 66% of the stated drag out of the Komodo and am curious it that is common with the reel or star drags in general. I have never had to fudge in any way to achieve the drag levels on other reels so that is why I was asking.

Thanks for the suggestions.
I will test my Komodo 471s today and let you know what I get. I will also let you know just how full the spool is when I test.

I will report back.

All I know is that these reels have the power to peel a 200lb ray off the bottom, I think you will be more then ok for what you are targeting.
 

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Nick,

Really appreciate you testing the drag on your reel and reporting. Gives me a benchmark to work with.
 

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Who here fishes their reels at max drag, successfully casting, letting bait run out when flylined and smooth reeling when bring in bait/lure or fighting a fish?
 

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Who here fishes their reels at max drag, successfully casting, letting bait run out when flylined and smooth reeling when bring in bait/lure or fighting a fish?
I have fought fish with the Komodo at max drag, but it wouldn't be advisable to fish with a reel at max drag all the time or even most of the time.

To me, max is there for those times you need that drag beyond usual.
 

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I have fought fish with the Komodo at max drag, but it wouldn't be advisable to fish with a reel at max drag all the time or even most of the time.

To me, max is there for those times you need that drag beyond usual.
And that is the point of my questions, everyone is getting hooked on the max drag of a reel without understanding that they will never fish with it at full drag and instead need to be looking at the lb test of line that they will be using.
 

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No small levelwind can smoothly produce max drag for any period of time. They aren't designed or built to do so.
 

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I look at max drag specs (skeptically) as an indicator of the internal strength of the reels components. I don't think I have ever used max drag on a modern reel. But we sure hammered down the 4/0 Senators, grouper fishing back in the dark ages
 

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No small levelwind can smoothly produce max drag for any period of time. They aren't designed or built to do so.
The Komodo comes close, the drag stack is absolutely massive for its size.

I have run my reels with the star turned as far as it would go on fish before, no hiccups in smoothness.

I wouldn't want to do it all the time though, no machine is meant to always run at maximum output or under maximum load.
 

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I look at max drag specs (skeptically) as an indicator of the internal strength of the reels components. I don't think I have ever used max drag on a modern reel. But we sure hammered down the 4/0 Senators, grouper fishing back in the dark ages
I am the same way, if a reel is about to handle a given load, it indicates how strong its internals are overall. A reel with 30lbs max drag, will hold up to 15lbs to 20lbs of drag pressure year in and year out.
 

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I achieved 33lbs of drag with a full spool on my Komodo 471.


I am curious if the 463 has a smaller main gear then the 471 and if that might be effecting the drag.
 

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I haven't caught any really big fish on my komodo 463, but, I made short work of a 80 pound black sea bass on mine and the drags were smooth as silk. I had my drags set at 13 pounds. Never really tried to max out the drags though as I view the drag pressure like rpm's on your vehicle. You don't want to red line it as you will shorten the life of the drags performance quicker than you want.
 
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Again, I completely get not running something at the limit of its capacity. But I should be able to get to that limit even if it is only once. I don't expect to kill cow tuna at 30 lbs of drag with this thing. Just want to know if others are unable to achieve the advertised drag of this reel.

Why would I be happy to get a product that does not meet the stated specifications? I did not ask if I could fish it continuously at 30 lbs of drag. I stated that I was not able to get more than 20 lbs of drag out to the reel and if that was to be expected for some reason.

I achieved 33lbs of drag with a full spool on my Komodo 471.


I am curious if the 463 has a smaller main gear then the 471 and if that might be effecting the drag.
Nick,

Thanks for addressing my initial inquiry looks like you are getting 30+ lbs. out of your 471,
 

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I have 2 more komodos, I will test them as well just to see what the consistancy is across the board.
 
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My best advice, if you can only get 20lbs drag, call Okuma up and they will make it right.

It could be something as simple as to much grease.
 

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Again, I completely get not running something at the limit of its capacity. But I should be able to get to that limit even if it is only once. I don't expect to kill cow tuna at 30 lbs of drag with this thing. Just want to know if others are unable to achieve the advertised drag of this reel.

Why would I be happy to get a product that does not meet the stated specifications? I did not ask if I could fish it continuously at 30 lbs of drag. I stated that I was not able to get more than 20 lbs of drag out to the reel and if that was to be expected for some reason.



Nick,

Thanks for addressing my initial inquiry looks like you are getting 30+ lbs. out of your 471,
 

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Ok,I understand. If you want to address this issue call them they have the best customer service in the industry.
 

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Looks like it may just be a bit of grease on some part of the drag system. I am now getting close to 25 lbs. out of the reel so will likely just take it apart when I have some time and confirm.

So to answer my original question it seems like you should be able to achieve the stated drag levels with a full spool of line.

Thanks,
 
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