Manhattan Pier CLOSED to Fishing

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  1. Xlobsterman

    Xlobsterman Newbie

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  2. gecsr1

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    Over reaction.......
     
  3. spize909

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    I heard the guy that got bit talking on the radio last night stating that he had no insurance and very much made it sound like he was going to go after the fisherman to pay his medical bills. I'm sure he will end up sueing the city as well. Hopefully it won't force a permanent closure of the pier(s).
    This is the same guy that did a swim from Catalina, collapsed on the shore at PV afer a 13 hour swim and they found he had a heart attack...............so he has no insurance and we are all going to end up paying for his issues.
    Shit happens.
     
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  4. gecsr1

    gecsr1 28' Aquasport "Reel Adventure II"

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    Just one of those things that just happen.... hope for the best
     
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    Check out the yahoo and his cohorts that had the shark on the line....

     
  6. MikeyLikesIt

    MikeyLikesIt did you say F I S H I N G ???

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    another "nanny state" childe who thinks he bears no responsibility for jumping into the real "food chain". :shake:

    the really, REALLY sad part of this is that with a good attorney, he might get something.
     
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  7. *****

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    Chumming for sharks off a pier with people in the water probaly isn't a wise decision. I can see where the fisherman was at least partly responsible for attracting sharks to the area.
     
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  8. bmachale

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    We don't know they were chumming. Maybe yes, maybe no.
    We also do not know that they new it was a great white. But if they did know, they could be in trouble. Regulations require cutting the line as soon as you "KNOW" it is a great white. even though I do not see how it is a good idea to cut the line with a 100 yds of line dragging off the hook, but that is beyond me.

    The guys in the video were laughing, at first, but all changed when they knew he had been bitten. Laughing stopped and they were concerned.

    As of January 1, 2014 everyone is required to have insurance. He is a realtor in a good market climate. Why does he not have insurance? Who paid for his heart attack last time?

    Why stop the fishing? They have always fished off the pier. And have a much rights as the other users. Why not restrict swimmers and surfers for 200 yds from the pier? The fisherman get fucked again. We are such an easy unsympathetic group.

    This state and its municipalities is a very interesting place to live in this day of liberalism, whinny sissies, and nanny staters. Makes me want puke.
     
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  9. gnehekul

    gnehekul I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    does a city have a right to ban fishing on a pier which is not run or owned by the city? in fact if its over the water is it even under their jurisdiction?
     
  10. MoMo Fish

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    What do you suggest an angler should do to attract fish to the pier? Yoga?

    There is only so many piers left in California and there intended purpose when build was also that of fishing. A swimmer has 99% percent of shoreline he could of chosen to swim out of but he chose this area where there is line and hooks in the water near him. Would of been easier to ban swimming near the pier as it reduces the risk to lifeguards who have to rescues the stupid out of the water.

    Based on your logic if I fish the jetty and some swimmer passes me while hooked to a shark I would also be responsible since I chummed the water?

     
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    Yes, you created a situation that might not otherwise have existed.
    I would suggest targeting a different species. Or sharking at night when they're more active. Isn't swimming/ surfing within so many feet of the pier already restricted?
     
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    Nope it's not. I may have seen one or two signs for all my trips to piers throughout the years ( been to all from imperial to Monterey). With miles and miles of coastline a swimmer has far more option than a pier fisherman who is restricted to that area and is doing what the pier is intended for.
     
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    Using your same logic, if the swimmer never entered the water, he couldn't have been bit.
    There is no blame in this as far as I can see. Yes, the fisherman is a jackass, and I'm sure most would agree that he was most likely targeting the shark, but being a jackass is not illegal.....yet.
     
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    Pier fishing is ghey and swimming near a pier is stupid.
     
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    Chumming is illegal in NorCal due to real concerns from the surfing community and other watermen that associating people with food for GWS is not a good idea in the long run. GWS attacks in our waters are very real and at Ano Nuevo at the tip of Monterey Bay there is a large breeding colony of Elephant Seals that are essential forage for GWS.

    Now, I don't think that it's a necessary to restrict boats in that manner but I really don't think chumming from Manhattan Beach Pier is a good idea given the number of people in the water and that it would attract sharks for miles.

    As GWS populations recover along with furbag populations this issue is not going to go away.

    Fishing should not be restricted, swimming and surfing should not be permitted within some distance of the pier but actively chumming for sharks at a swimming/surfing beach is not smart. Gotta think safety first trumps this one.

    Flame on my brothas! :)
     
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    Fess up..........you're an attorney aren't you?
     
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    Dude, the video, may do them in. They seem to know what's going on.

    Feel what you want, but it doesn't sound good.
     
  18. Aggro

    Aggro Keepin my pimp hand strong!

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    Wouldn't 100 fishermen all using bait at the same time be the same as one guy chumming?
     
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    Johnlgarrison The ultimate goal is memories not dreams.

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    If being a JACKASS was against the law 95% of the posts on Bloody Decks would be sent from a California Penal institution. I just double checked my spelling of "Penal" Yep I got it right...
     
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    INAL, but I play one on TV.

    Besides, if GWS are a protected species, I wouldn't be surprised if at least shark fishing the area doesn't become restricted during the specified "pupping season".
     

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