Man Up or spend money, what would you do?

Shimano Penn

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Dec 3, 2014
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David
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Fond Memory
I am a 63 Y/O 6'-2" ectomorph with a basketball sized gut, got "dunlaps" disease. Upper body strength was never my claim to fame but I could run a marathon with the best of them in younger years. Used to be in good shape but got too old to actually work and now sit on my ass all day finger pointing. 18 months of no gym hasn't helped. Been fishing since childhood and never imagined I would ever complain that the fish were too big. Well now they are.
I am covered up to 60/ "light" 80 with reels like HXW Raptors (2), FTH40NLD (2) and FTH60 LD2 (2). I have UC Raptors and Centaurs in 70 and 76 configurations. I am good with this as I'm not even remotely interested in fish over 100 lbs much less 150 or 200+. The problem is you can't selectively fish for the smaller models and at any time in this current fishery you could get tagged by a monster.

Before putting much thought into what I was doing, back in 2018 when these big girls showed up, I sent two of my old 30SW's to Cal Sheets for blueprinting and new line, JB 130 HC. Cost me a mint. 3 years later I've never used them, turned out it was all about kites and boat gear back then.

Recently I mistakenly bought a Phenix Axis X3H thinking it would be a good 60# rod. It laughs at 60, like fishing a lead pipe. So today I mounted one of the 30 SW's to it, I think it had an orgasm. This feels like a solid 100 pound rig but honestly I can barely lift it much less imagine myself fighting a fish with it. It must weigh 20 lbs !!!!!

What do I do? I have the disposable income to go blow $1200+ on a more sexy, slender, lighter 100 lb rig but this one will work, right? In my shoes would you just get tough and deal with it or would you buy new, and if so what would you buy????
 

jer dog

Fishing is life
Jun 22, 2006
9,162
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Garden Grove
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Gerry
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One that floats
I am a 63 Y/O 6'-2" ectomorph with a basketball sized gut, got "dunlaps" disease. Upper body strength was never my claim to fame but I could run a marathon with the best of them in younger years. Used to be in good shape but got too old to actually work and now sit on my ass all day finger pointing. 18 months of no gym hasn't helped. Been fishing since childhood and never imagined I would ever complain that the fish were too big. Well now they are.
I am covered up to 60/ "light" 80 with reels like HXW Raptors (2), FTH40NLD (2) and FTH60 LD2 (2). I have UC Raptors and Centaurs in 70 and 76 configurations. I am good with this as I'm not even remotely interested in fish over 100 lbs much less 150 or 200+. The problem is you can't selectively fish for the smaller models and at any time in this current fishery you could get tagged by a monster.

Before putting much thought into what I was doing, back in 2018 when these big girls showed up, I sent two of my old 30SW's to Cal Sheets for blueprinting and new line, JB 130 HC. Cost me a mint. 3 years later I've never used them, turned out it was all about kites and boat gear back then.

Recently I mistakenly bought a Phenix Axis X3H thinking it would be a good 60# rod. It laughs at 60, like fishing a lead pipe. So today I mounted one of the 30 SW's to it, I think it had an orgasm. This feels like a solid 100 pound rig but honestly I can barely lift it much less imagine myself fighting a fish with it. It must weigh 20 lbs !!!!!

What do I do? I have the disposable income to go blow $1200+ on a more sexy, slender, lighter 100 lb rig but this one will work, right? In my shoes would you just get tough and deal with it or would you buy new, and if so what would you buy????
Just use the rail.
 
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swami 805

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Mar 9, 2016
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sunk it
For a heavy frame reel I don't think you're going to find one a whole lot lighter, not enough to really notice after you lug it around for a few hours. Maybe look at a fathom, lighter weight and still has balls but not ideal for cow size tuna. Sucks getting old huh?
 
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hucklongfin

Deep release specialist
Jul 3, 2003
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MarkT
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Blazer Bay 1860
I use my HXW Raptor w/100#. It ain’t a 60/lite 80 reel! I got a 128#er flat falling at night 2 weeks ago with it on a pch-c-741xxxh. Lay it on the rail and turn the handle!
 
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TOTW

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You’d be surprised at what $$$ you could get for those reels. I’d unload them and go with new technology, even if it only cuts a few ounces—AND use the rail.
Also, it’s never too late to work on your fitness. Do what you can when you can. Look up David Goggins if you want a little motivation. Don’t mind the f-bombs.
 
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Goggins is awesome! I saw him speak in Vegas...Wow! He made me feel sloppy and I'm a fitness fanatic.
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2Rotten

Live in Oregon/Love to Fish San Diego!
Jan 10, 2010
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Rod Lathrop
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24' North River Seahawk Hardtop "Sun Dog"
Your existing Heavy rig (Axis XXXH with 30 SW) is only maybe 10-12 ounces heavier than my "New, Cool" Heavy. It will work fine.

Your 7'6" UC Centaur paired with the HXW Raptor is entirely adequate for the excellent grade of BFT we are seeing, and it is about as light as you are going to find. It will work fine.

IF you really want something close to Great for these bigger models, and you want to throw some green at it, there is a very easy recommendation:
  • 7'6" UC Viper has more lift and recoil than you could possibly need on a BFT
  • Penn VISX 20 or Okuma Makaira 20 SEa will take 700 yards of 100# braid and provide excellent free spool and more drag than you will ever need
Last month on a 1.5-Day on Tomahawk I used my Viper/Mak 20 combo to land 120, 125 and 185# BFT on a 300 G SK jig, all at night. The smaller Tuna came to gaff at 9 minutes, the 185# fish took 19 minutes. The big one never took more than 200 yards of line. Finished each fight at 40# of drag, the Rail is your friend! AND... I am 63 years old!

Good Luck and Have Fun!
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SD2600

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If you want to part with the centuar and the hxw pm me me I’m in the market
 
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pacificscout

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    I would save some money and bring a young formidable angler with muscles and have him/her fish the set up while you sit and enjoy a beverage and the fact that you can still fish again tomorrow. It is much cheaper and easier on your body.
     
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    bdubs73

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    You’d be surprised at what $$$ you could get for those reels. I’d unload them and go with new technology, even if it only cuts a few ounces—AND use the rail.
    Also, it’s never too late to work on your fitness. Do what you can when you can. Look up David Goggins if you want a little motivation. Don’t mind the f-bombs.
    David Groggins is not for the guy coming off the bench, but his mental fortitude is inspiring for anyone.
     
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    Buttchaser

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    Fish it , spend the 1200 on a 3 day !!!!
    The deck hands will help you out if things get out of hand ... Enjoy !!!
     
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    Mr. DRE

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    Take the $1200 and blow it on alcohol, cigars and cheap hookers. Next time you go fishing let me know I'll loan you one of my Vipers with either a ATD Super 12 if you start working on your upper body strength or a Dauntless 600N if you don't want to maintain your feminine figure.
     
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    mike garrahan

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    Sep 7, 2007
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    mike garrahan
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    23 ft. crestliner
    So far this year the biggest fish have been around 175lb to 180lbs. Last year some 300lb to 330lb monsters showed up in October but the really big ones haven't appeared so far this year. Right now about 99% of the fish out there can be caught on reels like an Avet HX raptor, Accurate DX2 600N, Penn Fathom 40 2 speed, Shimano Talica 16 or 20 etc. When you have a big fish on just use the rail and take your time. Even when the big ones are around I will take my chances with an Avet HXW raptor 3 speed. Just go fishing and have a good time. If you hook something that you can't handle just holler for one of the deckhands and they will help you out.
     
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    sickcat

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    IMO a rod/reel that is a couple pounds lighter is not going to make enough difference given your pulling on a big fish.

    If you can't run with the big dogs the porch is waiting!

    No disrespect - I'm an old man too!
     
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    woodfish330

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  • Aug 14, 2012
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    So many fish....and not enough time.... I feel you brother. Lose that weight for your grandkids.... the tuna really don't care.... but the grandkids will one day. As for fishing with the extra weight.... if it was easy... you would already be in shape.

    My opinion....GO...with what you've got. Spend the $1200 on those grandkids. Maybe buying them their first setup.. and taking them local... could help replace your aging desire to get one more big one brother. Either way...good luck!
     
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    Mickeyfin

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    Lots of good ideas here, thanks. I’ll just fish what I’ve got for now and pass the rod when necessary 😉
    My thoughts exactly. No shame in tapping out, now that I've made it to 70 ;)
    Making due with a Mac16/Centaur with 100# topshot. Back on the water in 10 days for a 3 dayer. If I pass the test will consider something longer in the fall.
    Go gettem,
    Mick
     
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