Makaira vs Talica vs HX5/2 Raptor

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Hi guys, Need some input form some of you pros...

I am going on my first 5 day later this year in October...yay! But my tackle is pretty limited, I currently have an avet mxj and a metaloid 12 2 speed. I need at least one more set-up for this trip...of this I am certain...but this is going to be a large investment for me so I am hoping for some honest input from bd to help me decide which way to go... I would love a set-up for wahoo specifically, but I think a heavier reel is what I am missing most. Can you guys please give me your insight on the Mk5011 vs Tac20 11 vs HX5/2 raptor...any info is greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance my bd bros
 

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I looked at all of those. Ended up with a VSX16. Loaded it up with Jerry Brown and im ready to go. However im not sure if its the right set up for you on a sport boat. It may be. I chose the reel with my own boat in mind and ability to chase down fish. But it came highly recommended here. Good buy for me at $430.
 
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bob1825

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Get the Wahoo set up, rent a heavy set up from the landing or boat. I have heAvy gear and have never used it. I've used my 40-50# every time. Good luck!
 
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even on a 5-day trip, HX raptor is too big. Get something more like a MXL or JX Raptor, fill it with spectra, and use it all the time.

Can be used for big tuna and wahoo later on
 
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I personally think your choice of heavy reels is way overkill. The metaloid 12 should fish 50 no problem. I would personally be looking for a 40lb set up assuming the mxj is non raptor. If you use the metaloid for 40 then pick up a 50-60. Fathom/torque 40n, JX raptor, mak 15 or Mak16 if you really want a heavy reel. You will most likely be fishing 30-40 most of the time fishing offshore and islands for yellowtail. You can rent a 60-80 lb rod but likely will not see much use.
If heading to Guadalupe its a different story, but I still would not fish your choice of heavy reels.
 

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I have both the JX and HX Raptors. The JX is more versatile for the shorter trips. It makes a good yoyo reel on every trip! On an October 5 day 30-40# will probably be your sweet spot. Hopefully, 40# more than 30#!

For bait fishing Wahoo, I've caught most of mine on 30# with a 44# leader with a 2/0 hook. A JX Raptor would be good for bombs and raiders for wahoo too.
 
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Me on a 5 day:

25lb bait rod
30lb bait rod
40lb bait rod
50lb yoyo
40-50 surface iron
60-80 bait/dropper loop

If I had to weed it down to 3 setups they would be

30lb bait
40lb bait
50lb yoyo

But damn it I would be pissed I didn't have a surface iron setup!!!
 

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Me on a 5 day:

25lb bait rod
30lb bait rod
40lb bait rod
50lb yoyo
40-50 surface iron
60-80 bait/dropper loop

If I had to weed it down to 3 setups they would be

30lb bait
40lb bait
50lb yoyo

But damn it I would be pissed I didn't have a surface iron setup!!!
That's exactly what I would take as well.
 

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That's exactly what I would take as well.
if the boat plans on Fishing the Lupe, then the
Talica 20 would be Perfect, and a 30 Wide with
A 100 LB top Shot, for Dropper Looping
But Renting them, would be the Way too Go
unless your Planning Longer Trips in the Future.
 

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you got some solid advice for a 5 day spread. jx raptor all the way imo........
 

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Thanks for all of your input...really rethinking my strategy...will probably rent heavy as suggested and go for the wahoo setup to use with jigs...going on the constitution with capt. Keith
 

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Thanks for all of your input...really rethinking my strategy...will probably rent heavy as suggested and go for the wahoo setup to use with jigs...going on the constitution with capt. Keith
I would ask where is Keith driving the boat to? Lots of good suggestions above!!!
 

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Thanks for all of your input...really rethinking my strategy...will probably rent heavy as suggested and go for the wahoo setup to use with jigs
very smart, i think you will appreciate your decision even more further down the road.
 

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Now as far as wahoo setups ate concerned...what do u guys think? Trinidad or jx??? Or the accurate?...best bang for buck?
 

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If you are going on a 5 day on one of the boats that has permits to fish Guadalupe then you need something that can handle 80 lb. The JX raptor is great for regular 5 days but at Guadalupe you want the extra line capacity of the LX or HX raptor. I used an HX raptor last year and it worked great but this year I'm getting an HXW 3 speed to add to the mix. When you hook the jackpot fish you will be glad that you have a reel that can handle it.
 

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Which boat are you going on?
Thanks for all of your input...really rethinking my strategy...will probably rent heavy as suggested and go for the wahoo setup to use with jigs...going on the constitution with capt. Keith
He's not going to Guadalupe, and he doesn't need cow gear...

Assuming non-Raptor, I'd use the MXJ for 30# and the Metaloid 12 for 40#. For something a bit heavier (50-60#), that would work great for wahoo, I'd suggest a standard HXJ/2. Plenty of line for any non-Guadalupe situation up to 5 days (this freakish local BFT bite notwithstanding), and easily fast enough for yo-yo duty. Reasonably priced, and fairly simple to service.

Save the extra $$ and get a decent rod...
 
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Go with an Okuma Andros 12S 2 speed. If you can wait for the narrow that's supposed to be out August 30th, it would be a screamer. The narrow is a specific tool but you can burn line back on the reel w/o worrying about bunching up. When it comes to wahoo, speed is everything.
 

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A Trinidad or Torium 20 would be great for wahoo bombs or jigs. With those lures you need to move it fast enough to get bit. For bait just about anything will do. After you get bit, you keep cranking to keep tight to the Hoo. It'll give up pretty quick.