Makaira 10 or 15 for Tug-o-war

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can anyone tell me if you use your mak10 or mak15 on the limit strike drag ?
I mean, if someone actually use it on 25# strike or 34# full for daily fishing and experience no binding on the handle.

Im planning on getting one for use them for bait for big cabrillas, medium sized YT on North Cortez Sea but from time to time your bait gets eaten by gulf groupers and those boys can get 70-80# and pull like mad bulls, if you catch them unguarded you can get them out with a ole 4/0 with the drag hammered to 25-30# or locked drags which we normally use down here, and dont want to get a big heavy reel when the normal fish is not bigger than 25-40# (if you have fished in Gonzaga Area you know that you cannot give any yard to a fish once is hooked).

Gulf grouper is not my main targeted fish but wanted since this makiara reel will be my to-go reel and seeing how guys on the west coast of San Diego get tunas on the 100# range, I was wondering if this reel mak10/15 with drag on strike or full (34#) can stop a 80# grouper that runs for rock cover as soon as it bites on a pure tug-o-war fishing style.

by chance someone can post a picture of a mak16 and a mak15 along a Penn 113h to check the size of the mak reel vs a well known reel.
 

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Not much real world exp. under the conditions that you have outlined but, I do have a Mak 15 SEA that I have set at 25 lbs at Strike and it does not show any signs of binding. I doubt that would change over time. These reels are designed to hold their drag while tuna run off a couple hundred yards of line. If 35 lbs. of drag will stop the fish you are concerned with then they will do the job. If you need more drag then you may be out of luck. The New Penn VISX 12 is supposed to put out 40 lbs of drag a full. May be another option.
 

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I do have a Mak 15 SEA that I have set at 25 lbs at Strike and it does not show any signs of binding. .
this really helps, more interested on the handle binding when use it on the max specs, in this zones you better be overkill a bit than undergunned

I already checked the penn 12vsx out and its pretty similar to mak15 (drag on strike its actually better on the mak at least on specs), but Penn is bit more heavy, bit expensier and I like more the low speed on the mak
12VSX
PEN-0954 360/30 24 lbs/36 lbs High: 5.0:1 Low: 2.5:1 High: 38 in Low: 19 in 33 oz
 

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this really helps, more interested on the handle binding when use it on the max specs, in this zones you better be overkill a bit than undergunned

I already checked the penn 12vsx out and its pretty similar to mak15 (drag on strike its actually better on the mak at least on specs), but Penn is bit more heavy, bit expensier and I like more the low speed on the mak
12VSX
PEN-0954 360/30 24 lbs/36 lbs High: 5.0:1 Low: 2.5:1 High: 38 in Low: 19 in 33 oz
He said VISX, not VSX. The new ones are much lighter. Either way you will be hard pressed to find reels that are pound for pound tougher than any of these reels you are looking at.
There was a thread recently where a guy killed a 180lb yellowfin on a Mak15 on a long range trip in cow country. His user name is dtf, check and what drag he was using, my guess is somewhere between stupid tight and yank the angler overboard tight.
 

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He said VISX, not VSX.

There was a thread recently where a guy killed a 180lb yellowfin on a Mak15 on a long range trip in cow country.
ops sorry, I didnt saw it was the newest version,

I saw also the post of the guy fishing the caw with a mak15
........and seeing how guys on the west coast of San Diego get tunas on the 100# range,
I think Im pretty sure it will handle a grouper too.

anyway, more than anything I was looking for real world experiences of weeken warriors with max settings and also looking to see a mak15 along a penn 113h to check the size, or I would have to travel 350miles to being able to check the maks personally.
 

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I might be able to get you some photos tonight. I don't have a 15 though, I do have a penn 113N, a mak 10 and a mak 16 though.

Size wise, a Mak15 is roughly the size of a Penn 500. Listed Capacity is roughly the same as well. To give you an old reel vs new reel size comparison. The spool is low and wide just like a 500 as well. Way lower than a 4/0. There isnt really a 4/0 sized Makaira (one of the glaring flaws in the lineup IMHO). The 16 is huge jump up in size from the 15.

Generally speaking, if you had the two reels side by side and someone who knew nothing about fishing saw them, they would probably say the 16 is huge and the 15 is small.
 

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I fish Grouper and other bottom dwellers in Florida and in Puerto Vallarta MX using a M10 and M15. The thrust bearing does it's job keeping the reel from binding. IT WILL TAKE HIGH DRAG SETTINGS. There are a number of Tuna in the 80 to 90 range and a Black Marlin that was 517lb's that I've landed on M10's and M15's. I got heat stroke and went into shock from the Marlin, but it lost. For grouper I like the 15 with 100lb Spectra. The low gear in the M's and small spool make grinding fish away from the bottom a dream. Being a small reel M15's capacity help some even with the short hard grouper battles. A short rod also helps. A 12 size does't do much more. If the fish get bigger it's time for a M16. I hope this helps.
 

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I fish Grouper and other bottom dwellers in Florida and in Puerto Vallarta MX using a M10 and M15. The thrust bearing does it's job keeping the reel from binding. IT WILL TAKE HIGH DRAG SETTINGS. There are a number of Tuna in the 80 to 90 range and a Black Marlin that was 517lb's that I've landed on M10's and M15's. I got heat stroke and went into shock from the Marlin, but it lost. For grouper I like the 15 with 100lb Spectra. The low gear in the M's and small spool make grinding fish away from the bottom a dream. Being a small reel M15's capacity help some even with the short hard grouper battles. A short rod also helps. A 12 size does't do much more. If the fish get bigger it's time for a M16. I hope this helps.
awesome, this is the real world answers I was looking for, thanks a Lot, I like the power and size of the M16 but in this latitudes (up north Sea of Cortez) it wont see much action in line capacity or stopping power other than targeting for black bass or Shark, for that I have a penn 50s blueprined (in-house), as I said, I would like something that become my goto reel and not a specialized reel to be used from time to time.

so, seems like the mak15 is the chosen one, I have the same plan on using the mak15 with 100lb braid, I dont need more than 300yds



@robert, thanks in advance for the pictures, it would be cool to see a mak10 along the penn 113n and the mak 16, although if you say is on the penn jigmaster size I can have an idea of it.
I think its going to be similar to the fathom 40 star drag, low spool and bit wide frame, I like the size of the mak10 but prefer the extra line of the m15 for use it on the deep reefs and still small and ligth tackle
 

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Hey Alex, having some problems uploading the photos but just had a handful of my reels side by side, a Mak 10 is smaller than a Newell 338 in over all dimensions, it’s lower on the side plate and narrower slightly as well. I don’t have a 15 but I imagine it would be about the same size as a 338. Not sure if you have one of those for reference or not. I’ll try again with the photos later.
 

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It’s spool is a hair wider, but with how tall both spools are a little bit wider is a lot of line. Over all it’s not much bigger at all. I don’t know for sure but a Mak 16 probably has a similar line capacity to a regular 4/0. Capacity as follows:

Mak 10: 400 of 65lb solid izor
Fathom 40nld2: 500 - 80lb izor solid
Mak16: 500 - 100 izor solid

Also you gotta remember with the camera on my cell phone the things closer in some pictures look a lot larger so I think the overhead shots are the most realistic.