Madeira Thread Questions

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  1. Steelie_Stalker

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    I am fairly new to rod wrapping and have wrapped about 8-10 rods for my collection. I have been using Prowrap thread but would like to switch to Madeira thread for better color selections. Questions are:

    1. Is there a good source of Madeira thread online with competitive pricing?

    2. I assume that I will need to order the 40wt thread and that this size is similar to size A of nylon thread.

    3. Madeira also manufacture and market metallic thread. How do their metallic thread compare to other company's metallic thread?

    4. Can I use both Madeira 40wt thread and Prowrap Size A thread together? In other words, are their sizes similar enough that it won't affect the overall look of the wrap?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. dueceswild

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    1) this place is where i get my madeira....good price and fast shipping http://www.brothermall2.com/thread/Default.aspx?PCID=7

    2) yea madiera 40wt. is their size A....slightly smaller than regular size A but I can't tell the freakin difference haha

    3) I know they make metallic thread but I've never used it....so I can't say anything about it...

    4) yes you can use maderia with whatever thread you want but remember that madeira is a polyester thread so you have to use any water based CP (the white milky ones) so the finish doesn't fish eye on you....

    Lol hope this helps you fella!
     
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    Try Bullards, they have all the Madera colors. Just remember to use several coats of CP when you are using Madera as the silicon content will cause fish eye problems, also helps to add a scrap piece of thread in your finish while mixing, it will help with the fish eye problem as well
     
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    I use their metallics in my weaves for the design and for trimming just as good if not better than some of the brands of rod building metallics. Silvers and golds have a great sheen to them, only draw back is that if you usually prefer to put straight finish over your metallics like many do, then just like the Madeira 40wt you will also need to apply cp to prevent fish eyeing. Also adding the thread to the finish tip that Bill (SaltyDawg) Havens first introduced is necessary to prevent fisheying when used with chromaseal cp, especially when heat is applied from an alcohol torch/lamp.
     
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    New to rod building also.... Add the thread to the finish????? Can y'all
    clarify for my dumb ass?
     
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    I love it...don't use the black..Use Bullard black no CP on Black..

    I also use there metallics good thread ..I like Bullard better..
     
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    When you mix your finish ad a 3 or 4 inch piece of the Madera thread in with the finish and mix it, the small amount of silicon that seeps out of the thread will help aclumate the thread and finish and help prevent fisheye, same principle as adding Smoothie to paint, sounds crazy but it works. I did an article in Rod Crafters Journal a few years ago with the step by step process, I cant remember which issue, maybe somebody here on BD remembers
     
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    Bills method is foolproof. Have not had a problem since. Like the first reply said, brothermall(the PAS store) is
    pretty hard to beat($2.17ea), and if you call them they will send you a thread sample book with all their
    polyneon colors in it.
     
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    Thank you for all the responses. I will keep all of the above recommendations in mind when I order and start wrapping with Madeira thread. It's amazing how many Madeira color selections are available!
     
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    Don't just limit yourself to Madiera polyester threads. There are heaps of other brands of polyesters out there which are just as good and some even better (Brother and Mettler Polysheen just to name a couple have outstanding sheen and can be bought on Ebay). Same deal applies though with the CP and thread in the finish trick. I refuse to use Prowrap (especially metallics - it's crap IMHO and fades very quickly)
     
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    Allstitch rocks for Madeira,,,,
     
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    can you tell me more options of those other polyester thread brands that are usable on rod building, please.
     
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    Thanks for the link, I want to try Madeira
     
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    who sells Bullards, I have been using pro wrap, but their metallics seen to shred sometime...
     
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    Voodoo.
     
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    I get my black from Scold at California Tackle House
     

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