Long range vs short range

Jul 30, 2020
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I am asking this only because I see it in alot of posts. When people are asking about diffrent rod and reel setups. I see people say if only going short range 3 to 5 days a international 16 is fine but long range trips take a international 20 etc.... I use this as a example because i just seen it. I agree with a 16 being fine local but why not longer range. Fish are being reported local in the 200 to 300 pound class.
 
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surfgoose

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  • Jul 29, 2010
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    On TRUE long range trips, those going for over a week to two whole weeks and putting a thousand miles and often much more under the keel, you are targeting (or hoping to target) very large yellowfin tuna and big warm-water yellowtail and fat groupers and such, and it is not uncommon to use big macks and skipjacks and such for bait.

    Local trips to four or five days are going to be on our offshore banks and islands in colder water and while yellowtail are often caught too, the primary prey is bluefin tuna and the bait usually used is sardines.

    The gear suggested for the different trips is because the prey is different, in the same way that you would likely be using a heavier rifle for an African hunt than you would need for a deer or elk hunt in the States. You certainly can take a .338 or bigger on your elk hunt, but the extra weight you are carrying can be hard on you. And not really necessary. That is like the difference between a 16 and a 20 if you are putting in the hours at the rail that you will need to locally. There are a handful of really big tuna caught locally every week. A handful, out of hundreds of tuna that are fought. I play the odds.
     
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    Jul 30, 2020
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    Yucca Valley
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    Shane Reil
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    Next year hopefully
    On TRUE long range trips, those going for over a week to two whole weeks and putting a thousand miles and often much more under the keel, you are targeting (or hoping to target) very large yellowfin tuna and big warm-water yellowtail and fat groupers and such, and it is not uncommon to use big macks and skipjacks and such for bait.

    Local trips to four or five days are going to be on our offshore banks and islands in colder water and while yellowtail are often caught too, the primary prey is bluefin tuna and the bait usually used is sardines.

    The gear suggested for the different trips is because the prey is different, in the same way that you would likely be using a heavier rifle for an African hunt than you would need for a deer or elk hunt in the States. You certainly can take a .338 or bigger on your elk hunt, but the extra weight you are carrying can be hard on you. And not really necessary. That is like the difference between a 16 and a 20 if you are putting in the hours at the rail that you will need to locally. There are a handful of really big tuna caught locally every week. A handful, out of hundreds of tuna that are fought. I play the odds.
    Thank you for the explanation, kinda what I was thinking the response would be.
     
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    durtyfeesh

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    Jan 26, 2008
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    Local stuff such as big blue a VISX 16 is sufficient enough
    Hell I’ve killed triple digit bluefin with a Maxel rage 90 in 15 mins

    Long range going after cow yellowfin a 20 is great and plenty of line. They are a whole different kind of beast

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    lake

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  • Mar 31, 2003
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    Another reason is when trolling for wahoo you need to straight crank the fish to the boat- no pumping. A 20 size reel typically has more cranking power. It’s just easier to get the fish in.
     
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