local LB bugging & Fish ID

Discussion in 'Southern California Inshore & Islands Fish Reports' started by vincentek9, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. vincentek9

    vincentek9 halibut suck

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    Bought some ambush XL nets at the FHS and decided to see how much differently they work compared to our arsenal of regular 32" wide ambush nets. Basically, both size nets catch the same amount of lobster in the harbor. I guess the bigger nets would work better if we were at Catalina and it was WFO bugging.

    Had some time to kill after getting limits on bugs so we decided to check out some fishing spots in the harbor. The bite was fairly slow for everything, but i did manage to hook this unknown thing. Snapped a pic and tossed it back because I had no idea what it was. Tried searching the internet but I cant find anything that really matches. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Looks like some kind of quality rockfish.
     
  3. Kin

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    If I didn’t know any better I’d say that’s a red grouper! Didn’t know they had populations in ca
     
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    I was thinking some type of grouper, but I don't know if we have red grouper or snowy grouper here. Then again, our boat has hooked sea turtles, BSB, legal WSB, threshers, and all sorts of super weird things in that harbor. i tried to zoom in on the only picture i have that shows the spines. hope it helps.
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  7. vincentek9

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    I was looking into that as it kind of matched the spots on the body, but this mystery fish has a rounded tail & top spines do not match.

    This is the closest one so far. Fins and tail design look kind of the same. Eye color matches. Only issue is a snowy the size of mystery fish would have had very distinct large white dots. Then again, this thing was caught in long beach harbor. And in California waters where I don't think they live anywhere nearby
     
  8. makairaa

    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Baqueta maybe?
     
  9. ReelWhite

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    Looks like a fish
     
  10. vincentek9

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    I think you got it! I'm looking up Baqueta and Gulf Coney and i'm seeing some really good matches. Specifically, that little black band at the top corner of the mouth. Thanks a ton for the help. I knew the fish gurus on BD could solve any mystery.
    https://www.mexican-fish.com/gulf-coney/
     
  11. Blackfish

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  12. makairaa

    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Spines are wrong for star studded. Gulf coney and baqueta are the same fish. American common name and mexican common name
     
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    Rodger that. I realized that after i did some more searching. But the fish does seem to be a hold over from 2016 ha.
     
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  14. makairaa

    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Definitely a holdover.
     
  15. dudeman

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    Looked up baqueta fish and like the previous dude said, the little black mustache mark behind the mouth is proof. Also says there delicious very high quality meat. So if a fish is not listed in the fish and game regs. can you keep it? They sell them commercially. There native range is sea of cortez up and around up to guerero negro. That one's a long way from home.
     
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  16. makairaa

    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I believe all true groupers are illegal to keep in CA. I know the broomtail is.
     
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    A suggestion. If its rare let it go. Its just one meal

    Boats that return from exotic locations. Often times release their tropical fish collection. In the bays warm water
     
  18. makairaa

    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I am going to guess by the size this one came up as planktonic larvae in the el nino of 15/16 settled out and has been growing in the harbor ever since.
     
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    Defiantly came as larvae cause the stress of being captured then released would probably have killed it, also the same happens to tropical fish on the east coast as larvae they get suck in the gulf stream and carried to New England then they die there in their first winter do to the cold.
     
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    OK, what about the BUGS? Did both types of hoops get 0&0
     
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