Live Bait Sinker Rig for Bluefin

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  • May 11, 2009
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    I'm very familiar with tying dropper loops and fishing sinker rigs to live bait for rockfish. I'm a little confused on how this technique is applied to 80# flourocarbon for live baiting deep bluefin. Do you simply rig the weight with a rubber band? Do you crimp on a 3-way swivel? (seems excessive) How long of a leader do you use? How far away from the hook do you place the sinker? Photos or doodles are greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
     

    bullyo

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    Rubber band rig with the sinker attached to the line via the rubber band in any number of ways. If you use a shorter piece of fluoro, the connection knot is an easy stopping point preventing the sinker from sliding down if your rubber band attaching is questionable.


    I like spectra to a 50 yard top shot of mono to a 5 foot section of fluoro
     

    TOTW

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  • Dec 23, 2005
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    This way is good. The crew earlier this week was wrapping the rubber band around the sinker for extra security. If sinker fishing is a possibility, be sure to have plenty with you in various sizes (say, 4-16oz). It’s a one-shot deal if you hook one.
     

    jer dog

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    This way is good. The crew earlier this week was wrapping the rubber band around the sinker for extra security. If sinker fishing is a possibility, be sure to have plenty with you in various sizes (say, 4-16oz). It’s a one-shot deal if you hook one.
    I have A neighbor Friend ,that is on the
    Shogun for A 3 Day right now,
    and he came by for 10 In-line Sinkers , 4 - 6- 8 OZ ,
    for this reason .
     

    Derby

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    The article TOTW shared is it. If your bands are too long, wrap around sinker a few times before going through last eye.
     

    IronMikeAC

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    This way is good. The crew earlier this week was wrapping the rubber band around the sinker for extra security. If sinker fishing is a possibility, be sure to have plenty with you in various sizes (say, 4-16oz). It’s a one-shot deal if you hook one.
    Gary, awesome tutorial. Seems like just yesterday we only rigged the top ring of the sinker and heard it banging against the wheel house and got in a ton of helicopter tangles.
     
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    woodfish330

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  • Aug 14, 2012
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    Yeah brother.... that rubber band technique saves you from 2 more "unnecessary" connection points between you and your fish.... (ie if you tie or attach your sinker in line).

    One thing most never mention when discussing the rubber band technique. There are a number of different "sizes" of rubber bands. Hear me well. #32 or #64 are the sizes of "gum" rubber bands you want. Smaller size target fish...and lighter bait.... use the #32. For big baits.... strong currents.... bigger target fish.... use the #64. Remember.... every bite costs a new sinker... so choose well.

    Both of these also work well for trolling.... but thats a post for another day. Good luck brother.
     

    jer dog

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    Gary, awesome tutorial. Seems like just yesterday we only rigged the top ring of the sinker and heard it banging against the wheel house and got in a ton of helicopter tangles.
    The shogun is putting some on
    As of right now, with the sinker rig,
    And are pulling up on another school.
     
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    woodfish330

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  • Aug 14, 2012
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    Just in time for a great BFT dream....tonight! Massive Breezers.... jumpers too..... blow outs.... screaming reels..... and a "FRESH ONE" in the corner!! 3 guys currently "on".... ALL Kite fish! Smiling and sleeping at the same time....lol.
     
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    tuna sniffer

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    Funny how Art says to rig it below the connection knot so it doesn’t slide up and Mike says to rig it above so it doesn’t slide down. What do y’all think from experience?
     
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    IronMikeAC

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    Rig Above the knot. It doesn't slide up. But I dont want it sliding down during the fight. Same concept as a carolina keeper with the weight above the knot.
     
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    BASSMITH

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    Tie one end of the rubber band above the knot, slide the sinker on through one eye, make a couple raps around the sinker, then slide it through the other eye and tie it to the line below the knot. This method will keep the sinker from sliding up or down the line.
     

    JM138

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    are you guys using bigger hooks than you would with flylining a comparative sized bait?
     
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    hucklongfin

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    Funny how Art says to rig it below the connection knot so it doesn’t slide up and Mike says to rig it above so it doesn’t slide down. What do y’all think from experience?
    Then split the difference and put one end of the sinker above the knot and the other below. Then it won't slide in either direction.
     
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    Derby

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    What's wrong with it sliding up the line after your bit?

    Use larger hooks. Usually 2 sizes bigger....but I use smaller Mustad hooks to begin with.
     
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    2Rotten

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    What knot are you guys using to tie the hook on the 60-80lb flouro?
    Clinch knot?
    In my experience the clinch knot can slip when using fluorocarbon leader material. I use the San Diego Jam knot. Several others are good too. Over 80# I prefer to use a crimp.
     
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    matt fe2o3

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    Hi folks can I ask a noob question? We are going out of San Diego next month on a three day. Virtually all our fishing had been river/stream and near offshore for Salmon/Rock/Ling up here in the Bay Area so this is new territory and excited.

    We are using the boats rods, etc., as our gear is not really anything suitable for most of what I think you guys do down there and I don't want to drag rods/reels that are useless down. LOL.

    However I do have a couple dozen cannonballs mostly in the 1 1/4" to 1 3/4" diameter and a handful of sinker releases. I'm happy to drag them down but not sure they will be of any use?
     
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    JM138

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    Hi folks can I ask a noob question? We are going out of San Diego next month on a three day. Virtually all our fishing had been river/stream and near offshore for Salmon/Rock/Ling up here in the Bay Area so this is new territory and excited.

    We are using the boats rods, etc., as our gear is not really anything suitable for most of what I think you guys do down there and I don't want to drag rods/reels that are useless down. LOL.

    However I do have a couple dozen cannonballs mostly in the 1 1/4" to 1 3/4" diameter and a handful of sinker releases. I'm happy to drag them down but not sure they will be of any use?
    No need for cannonballs and releases. You’ll be fishing live bait unless you want to try some jigs. Bring some rubber bands, buy some torpedo sinkers and hooks of the landing tackle shops recommended sizes. Most people will probably bring 30,40,50,60,80,100# set ups.
     
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    woodfish330

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  • Aug 14, 2012
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    Those cannonballs are usable.... for special conditions. Those "dog whistle" releases.... are crap for bigger tuna... they would break or tear open. Been there done that. Stronger release and larger cannonballs for Swordie deep drop while on the drift over night. Done that.... and got fish. Maybe just go without and watch.... so next time you wlll be able to more readily identify what of your other gear is appropriate for this kind of trip. If you use the "dog whistle".... make a jumper from eye to eye with wire. Good luck!
     
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