Kite fish as PB ?

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Alright i have had this discussion many times regarding do you consider a kite fish caught on big gear with probably 300lb. top shot hooked up and handed to you by a deckhand because your number was up your personal best ? I dont and yes I do have a cow under my belt caught this way.
 

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    What if you catch it on a kite or balloon off your own boat or shore? Does it count then?
    Do shore based kite fish count?
     
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    What the hell? The deckhand didn't swim out and choose your fish...did he. If you get. ANY of your BIG FISH... you know you used used BIG LEADER.... so I don't want to here that at all.

    The fact the fish ate the kite bait.... and like a boat trolling for BIG FISH.... someone else set the hook... ie... the boat. I mean the Deckhand. What's the differance? Both provided the angler a second to prepare... BEFORE REELING THE FISH BY THEMSELVES. They should get all the credit.... Period. No shame here. It's been done that way for decades.. The sportfishing community and anglers alike have benefited from.this method. You probably have too.

    Now if the crew member "Tag Teamed" that fish with the angler.... taking turns pulling on it.... thats another story. But private boat.... Sportboat.... Long Range.... and fish reeled in by 1 person...should get the credit BAR NONE. Just my thoughts....
     
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    hucklongfin

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    They count towards your limit but I don't brag about how I caught a cow and yeah I got a cow BFT on the kite. I gave it away like I do with all my big Tuna.
     
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    By the way.... the

    IGFA TOP 10 LARGEST YELLOWFIN TUNA records.....ALL TAKEN ON "THE KITE".

    How many BFT Cows and Super Cows... taken locally.... by the kite? But wait a minute.... so its like the MLB... we'll have to put an "asterisk" by your claim. Come on....

    Obviously.... reeling in and free spolling numerous times with a with a heavy piece of metal on the bottom.... makes a person more "QUALIFIED" to claim his catch.... is a "real" catch? That's just stupidity. I thought the "job" of the angler was to have fun and put fish on the deck? But thats just me.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    How about all the guys bragging about their big tuna that they had to hand off to the deckhand because they were gassed and couldn’t finish it themselves. I bet some of those disparaging a kite fish couldn’t finish their ‘real’ fish! I guess hooking a fish is more important than actually landing it?
     
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    But those girls fish from a chair and back down hard until they can touch the leader and call that a catch… how manly!
    Yeah, chair fishing and rail fishing are a lot alike with leverages when the angler has a bucket harness on and they count the chair but not the rail.

    It’s a gentleman's club, we wouldn’t get it.
     
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    How about all the guys bragging about their big tuna that they had to hand off to the deckhand because they were gassed and couldn’t finish it themselves. I bet some of those disparaging a kite fish couldn’t finish their ‘real’ fish! I guess hooking a fish is more important than actually landing it?
    Exactly. Anytime anyone touches your setup it no longer counts.
     
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    It depends on the boat you’re kite fishing from. If the crew holds the rods and hooks the fish then hands it to you I wouldn’t count it. If I’m holding the rod and working the bait when I hook the fish I’m counting it and bragging on it. I don’t enter jackpots so that doesn’t come into consideration.
     
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    If you put your time in kite jail it should count. A hand off from the crew maybe not
    Pretty sure you still get a jacket with a kite fish, right? Do they still do jackets?
     
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    It’s all up to the individual, for many, that may be the only way it will happen and I have no problem with it, almost all my brag worthy fish came that way on private, charter or 6 pack.

    To me it’s like hunting with a guide, w/o a guide, over bait, fair chase you name it. And I am very sure I wasn’t any less beat up, or heart broken losing one at gaff, than if it was hooked any other way.
     
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    You guys are looking at this wrong...
    Whether it's my pb on a kite, jig, bait or someone else's fish I put my tag on....If I'm paying $1.65 per pound to process the fish...IM COUNTING IT 🤣🤣🤣

    What's your PB at the processor?
    Actually had a 1.5 day trip that cost less than my processing bill
     
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    Agree that its' up to you what you count.

    Looking at the big picture that's' a tricky question. If someone else fought a fish and you did the last stint to put it on the deck not so hard to call but where is the line? Did you catch the bait, build the rod blank, make the line? Point being many people assisted an angler that caught a big fish that he would not have caught without that help.
     
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    If the deckhand or anyone touches your rod it doesn’t count. IGFA said so
    Brother.... anyone doing THAT dance.... already knows.... has a plan.... and can "prove" the circumstances, with the proper criteria. Why else even submit...right? Even when "everyone there (on the trip) agreed"... before submission.... others become jealous and false rumors and stories caused disqualification. Who knows....

    There have been a few "hard fought" IGFA records given to Long Range anglers in the past. BUT the usual contention about gaff lengths.... anchor "bypass" handling... over and under.... tangles and corner "spiderwebs" untangling..... has caused many in our little circle.... to think its impossible. It's not. You just have to "manipulate" EVERYTHING if your gonna ....dance with the Devil. Good luck.
     
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    You guys are looking at this wrong...
    Whether it's my pb on a kite, jig, bait or someone else's fish I put my tag on....If I'm paying $1.65 per pound to process the fish...IM COUNTING IT 🤣🤣🤣

    What's your PB at the processor?
    Actually had a 1.5 day trip that cost less than my processing bill
    497# of Wahoo! The trip I caught 2 fish weighing 619.8# of YFT, 0# processed!
    If you put your time in kite jail it should count. A hand off from the crew maybe not
    Pretty sure you still get a jacket with a kite fish, right? Do they still do jackets?
    Jacket? That’d be cool… All I have are these…

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    There are some people who get cows on the kite with two deckhands standing next to the them the entire time and is the only way some people would ever catch one...
     
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    hucklongfin

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    There are some people who get cows on the kite with two deckhands standing next to the them the entire time and is the only way some people would ever catch one...
    I had Tim at my elbow. Once your fish is on the deck he welcomes them on board with a swing of the bat that Trout would admire!
     
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    My pb yellowfin was fishing jigs at night at hurricane bank. Fish ate the jig, came straight up, layed on it side and straight at the boat. Full kamakazi. Gaffed before it put a dent in the boat, I just reeled in the slack. Does that count? No one touched anything but me
     

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    PB is PB, it doesn’t matter if it was fly line, sinker rig, dropper loop, jig, yo-yo, surface iron, popper/stick bait, trolling, kite, etc… if you fought it to the boat it’s all good… and hopefully, good eating! I have PB’s in every category!
     
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