Karavan Trailer workmanship issue

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    So. This happened:
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    Then I ent back and saw in old
    Pictures that it has been cracked for a while

    So I went and bought a new one, after inspection it is cracked like this on both sides:

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    Went back to the trailer store, they are all cracked.

    I guess I'm going to my local welder to see if he can fix it!

    If you have a karavan trailer you better check yours!


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    Wild Bill

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    A good welder can fix that. Obviously a pimple faced squirt gun wielding minimum waged monkey was employed with no QC. The proper fix is very dependent on good prep. Got to grind through the galv to parent metal so the new weld is not contaminated. That is pretty disturbing.
     
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    Which is why I posted here for the brotherhood


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    The trailer is all aluminum with the exception of the winch post and the cross bar it sits on. So luckily they only had to weld steel on the winch post.


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    If that is attached to a aluminum I beam trailer, I would bet that it is not even made by Karavan. Most of them are from"Tie Down Engineering". Some are Hecho in China.


    If that is Karavan's work, I would just ask them to send you a new one.
     
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    Right, I figured they just bought the part
    All The ones I looked at at the store were cracked too. I think I'm just going to take it to my local welder and get it fixed up good. I don't want to waste a lot of energy messing with the manufacturer. I'm sure they are all cracked or close to it. Whoever made the part is bad and Karavan needs to open their eyes.


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    That little gusset brace is a POS. Have them fab one up with 45 deg. gusset 1/2 to 3/4 of the way to the top. Without that the constant flexing will cause metal fatigue. It looks as though the base metal fractured at the weld. I say bad design, not bad welding!

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    Yeah, I tend to agree but that does not excuse the new one with the cracks pre installed


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    That little gusset brace is a POS. Have them fab one up with 45 deg. gusset 1/2 to 3/4 of the way to the top. Without that the constant flexing will cause metal fatigue. It looks as though the base metal fractured at the weld. I say bad design, not bad welding!

    Ducker!

    Yeah, THIS!! I've fixed a couple of these, it doesn't need re-welding, it needs redesigned!! That little brace is not going to do a damn thing. The brace needs to be about a foot away at the base and hit just below the u - bolts for the winch.
     
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    Yeah, THIS!! I've fixed a couple of these, it doesn't need re-welding, it needs redesigned!! That little brace is not going to do a damn thing. The brace needs to be about a foot away at the base and hit just below the u - bolts for the winch.

    It baffles me how they design these winch mounts. There has to be someone at the trailer shop that knows something about gussets. It's either a tube welded at the very bottom or a little piece of flatbar.
     
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    I disagree that it is all design and not welding. It is probably a combination of both. If you get good penetration on both sides the weld would not have simply separated along the edge of the tube as if it was not even welded. If the production welder standing in a booth all day welding thousands of these has his nozzle pointed more at the main tube than the small brace the penetration is mostly on one side and barely if at all along the side that let go. If the welder had good penetration on both sides and it fracked from fatigue it would likely crack right down the center of the weld. A proper weld is often stronger than the metal it is attached to.
     
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    As stated ... It's the engineering not the welds.

    Wow! Did you have opportunity to X-ray and inspect said welds... spoken so matter of fact and all knowing... I assume you must have. Can we see the results of the testing..

    I was fortunate enough as a young man to work at CR Brophy'S in Milwaukee and weld thousands of Jack stands,, camper jacks, and such. These companies don't hire top quality welders... I was 18 and fresh out of high school and my only welding experience was at home and metal shop in school. It is all about production. A fork lift would deliver me barrels of parts and I had jigs for the various parts to be built. I stood in one place welding and throwing completed parts into barrels to be picked up by the same fork lift.

    Later in life I worked at real fabrication shops and there is a difference...

    To look at these welds and how they are separated along the tubes.... and then decide it is all engineering... well.... you are awesome!
     
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